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No. In my view, they are first fruits just as the Word says. Because it not the same first fruits. Of course. Very important. Great. But they are not part of the 144,000 first fruits. That much is sure.

Your bias is keeping you from seeing the truth.

You might want to reconsider. He is coming in an hour that your think not. The last trumpet is blown on the feast of trumpets. The Church wasn't in the great tribulation. They are already in heaven. Those that came out of the great tribulation are Jews. They got victory over the beast and are...

Full chuckle on that Baloney. Thanks for the laugh. I take them as first fruits because the text calls them first fruits. Rev 14 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and...

If I am following correctly, he is saying that Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood as I was saying. Then he says (I think) that we cannot tie this 7-day period to the tribulation. If that what he is saying I would say that is accurate. I personally do think the 7-day period is a...

Yeah, like thinking the 144,000 is the Church. You won't take the Word of God that the 144,000 are the first fruits of the 12 tribes. You have to speculate because you don't know where the Church is.

It like the kid that picks fights. Gets his butt kicked every time and then wants to fight some more

Ok......... They ate, they drank, they partied until the week of the game. And the game was played, and the Giants were destroyed. Genesis 7 says God told Noah to enter the ark. Before anything else, God told Noah to enter the ark. Do you think he waited 7 days to obey? The Word says...

You mean like the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes and is NOT THE CHURCH. You give yourself a trump card for every scripture. It doesn't mean what it says. It means what I want it to say. The strange thing is you don't even know you are doing it.

I go by the text. Many of you go by what you think it should be in your eyes. You can claim the 144,000 is the Church but the text says different.

Great. The conclusion above is. and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. NOW NEW PARAGRAPH. Bub. I already showed you many times why what you are saying is incorrect. You see what your doctrine allows you to see. I was post trib...

You are adding the days of Lot to produce a false narrative. The coming of Jesus for His Church will be like the days of Noah. The coming of Jesus for the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth will be like the days of Lot. Two comings..........Two harvests means two raptures.

The same day you have highlighted is the day Noah was 600 plus 2 months plus 17 days Genesis 7 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, You conveniently left off what day...

As I said the text shows new paragraph. You are using the fact that Noah was 600 plus years old on the same day as the flood and trying to claim the animals loaded on that day. False. They all entered on the selfsame day. Day one.......the day God told him to enter. Noah entered and after 7...

Come on. Bad conclusion. First thing Noah is told to do is enter the ark. That is when they quit eating and drinking and marrying and being married..... The day Noah enters the ark. Conclusion is that you have jumped over to a bad translation. And this proves it. Genesis 7 9 There went in...

I understand what you are disputing. You think Noah was shut in the day of the flood. The text says that Noah, his family and all the animals entered the ark in the self same day. That mean's they had to enter in one day. Look below at Genesis 7:13. You see that paragraph symbol (¶). That means...

How is it possible for Noah, his family and all animals to enter the ark in the self same day and that be the day of the flood if they begin entering on day one as they were told by God. What you claim is impossible. Simple as that.

Exactly. I wonder if it is more important to know the truth or protect a fallen doctrine.

Noah was told to enter the ark with his family and all the animals. He did as God told him. Genesis 7 9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the...

Oh. So the first thing God says is ......... the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark Did Noah disobey and wait until the 7th day???????????? No.......... Genesis 7 5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him. So you can claim that Noah waited until...