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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    It is what some refer to as already, but not yet. What that means is that Isaiah's prophecy spiritually came when Christ came with His Kingdom. When the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete as the last Gentile to be saved has entered in, that which is now spiritual will be physical...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    I see your mind spinning these things somewhat the same way mine did many years ago. I too began my Christian journey embracing the doctrine of Premillennialism. The real struggle for me was that I had simply accepted what I had been taught. Then one day I encountered a Christian whose end...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    I agree new Jerusalem will come down with the coming of Christ. One thing you forget is how that shall be the last day of the age we have been living in since Christ has come. According to Jo 6, Christ tells us that He will raise us up on the "last day". John writes there will be no more...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Have you ever really considered that Isaiah's NHNE is prophecy pertaining to the spiritual Kingdom of God that would come when the promised Messiah, they long waited for would finally come? Being Premillennial, I wonder if you have ever examined prophecy through spiritual fulfillment? That is...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Where we differ, I believe the hardening in part must be removed before the last of the Gentiles come in. The time to be saved for all people is now. This is the time given the Church, as Satan is sealed in the pit when the elect of God from every nation shall be saved. Grace & Peace to you...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    We stand in faith in regarding who is saved. If a person claims to be saved, having been born again and becomes yoked together with other believers, who are we to say they are not saved? We know when Satan was bound because Scripture tells us when. We only know that Satan shall be loosed when...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It's only the saints who have physically died that are a spiritual body of believers in heaven after death. The saints surrounded during Satan's little season are still physically alive on earth.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    By faith! When people profess to having come to a saving knowledge of Christ, and say they have been born again, they are accepted as belonging to the body of Christ and are entitled to receive of all the benefits afforded them from the Church. Especially those who submit to being members of...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    There is no way for any man to know who shall be or is saved or not. God only knows! It's not about knowing no one else is being saved. If the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is silenced (seemingly killed) on earth than who in unbelief shall hear to be saved? Will believers not know when laws...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I agree in part. They are 'two' olive trees, and 'two' lampstands. I believe they are the Word of God of Old contained in the Law and Prophets, and the Word of God of New delivered through proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through the power of the Holy Spirit. Which is what shall...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Not sure what you're trying to say here? Do you believe that when one becomes a faithful Christian they have no responsibility to share the Gospel with those in unbelief right up to the last moment they can? We work for salvation, but we do work out our salvation because it is God who works in...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It was Jewish CHRISTIANS scattered abroad who belonged together with Gentiles of faith to the seven Churches John was instructed to write to.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The seventh angel will not sound before the last Gentile to be saved comes into the spiritual Kingdom of God by grace through faith. John writes in Rev 10 in the days when the seventh trumpet begins "the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." (Rev...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Yes, but Paul has already said they were broken off through unbelief. It was Paul's hope that through salvation given even unto the Gentiles, SOME of those of his flesh might be saved. Any one of those of his flesh in unbelief who did not remain in unbelief, would be grafted back in again, and...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Just because Harold Camping erred greatly (I am familiar with his doctrine) greatly, you do greatly err also if you put all Amils with the same brush with his erroneous doctrine. There is one thing I highly praise Camping for, and that was his constant admonition to all who listened him, was...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    IMO, I believe Christians will know, and won't be surprised as others who are not looking and waiting for the Lord to come again. I believe we shall know because Satan and his minions will have silenced (spiritually killed) the two witnesses through lawfare, which I believe is the Word of God...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Who throughout the earth called Gog & Magog is going to come to a Christian to be saved. Gog means antichrists Magog means antichristians/antichristianity? In your opinion, what do you believe John means when he writes the two witnesses have been killed?
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It's not Amils that say the entire planet and heavens shall go up in the flames of God's wrath. That includes every human being still living on the earth at that time. Are you certain the prophetic words of Ezekiel are referring to what shall pertain to the new earth? When you take the time...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    All who are left alive on this earth after a thousand symbolic years and Satan's little season, will have already been set free from the fear of death when they believed the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and were saved forever, or they already belong to Satan, still held in bondage to fear of...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The binding of Satan by Christ's cross and resurrection was not about proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom of God unto all the nations of the world. It could not be proclaimed before the Gospel (Christ) literally came. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God to the nations was sent out with power...