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  1. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    If we follow this line of reasoning there is no truth out there merely the thoughts and opinions of those who have studied the word. Basically they wasted their time studying despite the assurances of the Lord that the Holy Spirit would lead them into the truth. You state:"There is not one bit...
  2. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    If what is presented has been proven to be in harmony with the divine testimony (likewise with the facts as they were recorded in the history of the church), then it should be taken as truth. This of course presupposes that the individual has taken the time to examine the material for him or...
  3. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    No it’s what I believe. When I stated what I present here is what we Bible Students have gleamed from the study of this chapter that means I include myself in this we. I myself am a Bible Student. Before one accepts any teaching from another they are admonished to follow the example of the...
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    The Study of Revelation

    Revelation Chapter 12 Verse 2 “Then (that is later) being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.” “If we locate it aright, the woman (as depicted in Verse 2) is seen in this vision about 308 A.D., and has been in the "Smyrna" stage of the Church as described in Rev...
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    The Study of Revelation

    I'm pretty sure I've made it clear from the start that what I was presenting here is what we Bible Students have gleamed from the study of this chapter. It is what we have come to believe to be true based on our studies of the scriptures, you are however free to disagree and post your own...
  6. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Your words not mine. It is obvious that you have gotten all hung up on our earlier statement: “Only those who possess true spiritual enlightenment, (the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit) will be able to grasp the true significance of this chapter, others will most likely continue to believe...
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    The Study of Revelation

    See Post#28
  8. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    That may be equally so but it does not detract from the point made. Do you imagine the Apostles statement in 2 Cor 5:20 was only in reference to himself and Timothy or to any others which were with him at the time and not to all the saints called to be Ambassadors of Christ? The Apostle was...
  9. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Your literalist interpretation of Revelation blinds you of the facts, I refer you to our study on Heaven as found in our blog post.
  10. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    No one is helping me; (save the Lord), I live by myself and make all my own post. As for my reference to “we”, “us” or “our” when stating such I am referring specifically to what we Bible Students believe, although it’s true that not in every detail (especially in regards to prophecies yet...
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    Date Setting, Part 2

    Continued from previous post. “The Apostle Paul declares, "Of the times and seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you; for yourselves know perfectly that the Day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [Quietly, stealthily it will come, and after it has come, many will not...
    • Harvest 1874
    • Blog entry
    • 3 min read
    • end times prophecy times and seasons
    • Category: General
  12. Harvest 1874

    Date Setting, Part 1

    The following was a response we made following a comment made by a sister in Christ. She states: I need to be very careful how I state this: There are a few very well meaning pastors who like to set dates for specific things they believe will happen as it relates to prophecy. This the Bible...
    • Harvest 1874
    • Blog entry
    • 4 min read
    • end times prophecy times and seasons
    • Category: General
  13. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Apparently you missed our response to your previous post, Please see Post#20
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    When the Year of the Second Coming Will Be, the Millennial Shabbat of the Year 6000 YB, Jubilees

    You might want to take a look at our blog post entitled God's Great Sabbath Day for further insight on this. It covers the Jubilee cycle likewise.
  15. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Revelation Chapter 12 Now as you recall we broke down the “heavens” into two distinct groups, the literal heavens and the symbolic heavens, and then further went on to show how each of these two groups were subsequently divided into three parts. Now however we would like to consider another...
  16. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Revelation Chapter 12 Having we believe established the fact that the scriptures clearly imply both LITERAL heavens as well as SYMBOLIC heavens, we will now proceed in our study of Rev 12:1 to determine which of these “heavens” is being referred to in our text. We believe that the answer will...
  17. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Where exactly did we make the claim as you say that this interpretation comes directly from God? We said nothing of the kind in fact we have made it abundantly clear that this study is from the Bible Students perspective that is as we view it from our studies of the book of Revelation. No one...
  18. Harvest 1874

    The Study of Revelation

    Could be my friend, Please understand I personally bare no ill will to any if they chose not to accept what we present here (we would hope that they would share the same should we chose not to accept their interpretation). Prophecy as you are well aware is a tricky subject at best and requires a...
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    The Study of Revelation

    The scriptures are quite clear on this matter that only those possessed of the spirit can comprehend spiritually things, because they are spiritually discerned. If you are not spirit begotten then obviously you’re not going to be able to receive (to accept) the things of the spirit no matter how...
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    The Study of Revelation

    Then sadly you're out of luck because this is not JW material, nor do the JW's interpret Revelation the same as Bible Students. It is evident you don't know much about the beliefs of the two groups save that which you have gleamed from the internet, most of which probably comes from either X-JW...
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