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Hello Laid Your post touched me deeply as I have some understanding of what you are going through. My ex has psychopathic traits and our two sons chose to live with him despite his alcoholism, and became drug addicts themselves. He has manipulated them to see him as the victim and me the...

The unforgivable sin is assigning the work of the HS in sanctification, to the devil. Those who oppose the preaching of entire sanctification and say that man cannot be holy or sin free in this life, are refusing the work of the HS and must, therefore imply that it is a doctine from hell. When...

Epi You have a point and indeed the 120 waited together for Pentecost. However, they were meeting together for which proved to be a short period, and were not at the point of sharing their worldly possessions and throwing in their all together. They were waiting to be enabled to do that, they...

I`m in agreement with Axe here - the narrow way is to be IN it and not aiming for it. You are either in or out and if out you are not in Christ. And you can only discern the body once you are part of it because you must be joined to it by being delivered from the sin nature and walking as He...

Rex quoted Is. chapter 6: 5 And I said: “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts! but he did not put it in context by quoting the following: 6 Then flew one of the...

A disciple is a person who has responded to the call of Christ and has left all to follow Him, but has yet, a long way to go. A disciple has still to find out what is in his heart, and how weak and unfaithful he can be. He is not yet in union with Christ. If he does not turn from the measure of...

What we see as our ultimate source of authority, is the most important issue for believers. Protestants say scripture and Catholics say the Church, but scripture says it is the Word, not the scriptures themselves which are the fountain and not the source, The Word or Christ Jesus, who existed...

XP wrote: I have a problem with the saved from sin stage.... do you mean he was no longer sinning? If so I'm still with you there.... OR do you mean something that is semantically tweaked from that? ME Correct ; I mean he was no longer sinning. XP wrote: Ok we are still together. I'm...

OK willfollow with some verses that say salvation is the end of the journey not the begining. If we hold on to the end we will be saved. I ask you to look at the Psalms of David. He worshipped God but in many places Ps 31:16 for eg he asks his Lord to deliver/save him. OK here is something...

XP wrote You said it - they were not yet in Him and therefore saved from sin. Thats why they needed a mediator but John did not because he was in Christ. It is only when we sin that we need Him to mediate. So maybe we can agree that John was at the saved from sin stage and the others were not...

XP - I only used salvation because it's what whomever I speak with would use. I hate that term. Seriously. Ha! I found it! Well yes, its difficult when there are so many interpretations. XP - I like your observation with the Paul a 3rd stager, etc... we really agree on a lot here. Yes...

If the partnership breaks down, and there has been no legal contract, then there is no recourse in the division of property for the one who is left holding the offspring and for this reason, I think that believing couples should make it legal, at least for their children. I don`t think that a...

XP Yes but that is one side of it, the other is a public declaration of lifelong commitment. A promise is required as well as the physical union. Otherwise it is half done.

Xian No. I believe it is God`s will that a legal contract is made to protect the woman and children before sex takes place. The woman at the well had gone against His will - maybe she did not want to go through the public humiliation of divorce again (it was the man who had the power to...

Sure you are saved at Atonement, being made one with Christ, united with Him in S/spirit and then we go on to maturity, but the end of that cant be born again - its at Atonement, having His nature imparted, and that is where the real change takes place . I see it in three steps, and that is...

Xian I am enjoying reading your posts and find them refreshing but I dont think I agree with everything you say - though quite a bit. For one thing, I dont think we are saved until we become born again or reach the full stature of Christ and our sin nature is eradicated and we sin no more -...

The errors on both sides of the dispute come through men thinking with carnal minds and therefore not understanding spiritual laws governing the spiritual development of men/women in becoming united with God. Mary was no different to those who reach this perfection, apart from her special role...

NetChaplain I was interested to read your quote as I believe in three stages, and they have been taught for a long time as the Triplex Via - initiation, illumination and glorification. I believe George Fox taught this but Quakers disagree with me. Most holiness teaching is about two stages -...

By nature I understand it to mean the signifying quality of a man and as he was created to be an obedient servant, it is either to God or Satan where he takes on the nature of either. Men are made sinners the verse says, not born. If they were born sinners they couldnot be said to become...