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  1. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    To clone some ancient person, even if it were possible, for the clone to grow up and become of age, say in his 30's, 40's, 50's, to fulfill the bible prophecies concerning the Antichrist/beast king - there is not enough time for that to happen before the parable of the fig tree generation passes...
  2. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
  3. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Metaphors are being used in that verse. 1. the woman 2. the two wings...
  4. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    Actually what the text says is the 70 weeks are determined upon Daniel's people and Jerusalem. The little horn person is time of the end, who is broken not by human hand, but by the Prince of princes - Jesus. Has nothing to do with the Pope, nor the RCC, nor the 540's AD.
  5. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    In Matthew 24:15-21, Jesus said them in Judaea should flee to the mountains. So which is it - flee to the mountains, or get on jets and fly to other parts of the earth ?
  6. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    Daniel 9:27 is a false messiah verse. Which is why "the messiah" is not in that verse, as being the one who confirms the covenant for 7 years.. Where is the Antichrist in Daniel 9 ? He is the prince that shall come.
  7. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yes, the rapture/resurrection event is those two verses. "whether wake or sleep"
  8. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    That is Premill My post #176
  9. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yes, at his coming - Premil jeff, in Zechariah 14:2-5 is Jesus returning to stand on the Mt of Olives, splitting it apart. And then afterward, events in Jerusalem, to come worship the King - Jesus. So there is going to be time left on this present earth after Jesus returns. Zechariah...
  10. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    For certain there is coming an end to Satan's activity and the time of the end little horn/prince that shall come/Antichrist/revealed man of sin/beast-king person.
  11. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I think there should be a separate forum expressly for Amil participation only. This particular forum though is "Eschatology and Prophecy Forum". You started another similar thread "The absurdity of Pretrib logic" that is now locked. So the Pretrib rapture timing view seems to be a big...
  12. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why ? You are attacking the Pre-trib view with this thread. Can no-one disagree with you ?
  13. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I think the Pre-trib view is possible - but not mandatory. The rapture may not happen until after the 70th week has begun. The limit is that the rapture will take place before the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act of sitting in the temple claiming to have achieved...
  14. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In your opening post, you wrote.... "(and in Dougg’s case distorted charts)". So, where are Amil's so called "un-distorted" charts ? Your thread represents the Amil view. So why do you not want to discuss what you wrote in your first three posts of the thread - as those posts represent...
  15. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    jeff, I suggest that you go by the kjv, which in the kjv it says in verse 8... not slay... but consume . The person will be cast alive into the lake of fire, him and also the false prophet, in Revelation 19:20.
  16. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    So, according to Amil, in the 42 months of the beast-king's reign, when people are gong to be put to death for not worshiping the beast nor his his image, and the trumpet judgement and vials of God's wrath are taking place around the world - individuals will "spiritually" be saying peace and...
  17. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The Mt of Olives has not been split in half. So visible proof that Zechariah 14:2-5 is still future.
  18. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    So in the Amil view, Jesus never stands on this current earth again like it says in Zechariah 14:2-5?
  19. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    When does the 42 month reign of the beast-king end ? What ends it ?
  20. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You did not answer what I wrote. What biblically speaking will facilitate the world saying peace and safety - right before Jesus 's Second Coming to destroy the earth of your view ?