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  1. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    The original Christians believed Jesus to be God. Maybe if I post it enough times, some will come to believe that what started to be taught a couple of hundred years ago is a heresy (not orthodox Christianity). Here is what the original Christians believed: Polycarp (AD 69-155) was the...
  2. GodsGrace

    Why the great chain?

    Is this a trick question? Are you really serious?
  3. GodsGrace

    Why the great chain?

    Yes. I do believe that CHAIN OF EVENTS was msot certainly an expression used back in the day.
  4. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    So who cares what begat means outside of theology? I don't.
  5. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    HOW is begotten applied to Jesus? AGAIN John 1:1 THE WORD WAS WITH GOD. John 1:14 THE WORD BECAME FLESH. Something that was WITH GOD AND WAS GOD was with God and was God. Simple. Is your leg with you? Is it a part of you? Was it always with you or was it created at some point? What do...
  6. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Since you will not clarify your belief system...it IS difficult to speak to you regarding it. You SEEM to be a universalist. Maybe. Just want everyone reading along to know that we get JUDGED at the time of our death. If universalism is correct JUDGEMENT IS NOT NECESSARY since we will all be...
  7. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I don't come on here to teach Beebster. If YOU do that's fine. Not like you'll be teaching anyone. You see, in order to teach someone...a higher authority than yourself has to give you the authority to teach. You might remember Matthew 28:19 Yeah. Strange ain't it? Jesus said we are to be...
  8. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Looks like I'm 100% right. I said God's word creates. And YOU posted Genesis 1:3 LET THERE BE LIGHT AND THERE WAS LIGHT. Thanks!
  9. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    You are trusting MEN to believe in Jesus. Think it over. Were the Apostles men? The Apostles had no clue? Peter had no clue. Thomas had no clue. Looks like we're not in very good hands. Maybe they weren't inspired? They didn't know things... they misunderstood Jesus. Wow.
  10. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    You may believe what you wish. I don't like to spend a lot of time on "words". The ORIGINAL word used was LOGOS. It had to be changed to English. Thus: WORD Really? Oh my.
  11. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    No, that is not the reason. God's Word can create anything. I believe we're discussing God here. Our words. Which are JUST WORDS.
  12. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Right. Yahweh is God. Jehovah (an incorrect name) is still God. LORD is God Lord is God Adonai is God. Almighty is God Father is God It's all the same God GH.
  13. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    If you "come forth" from something... you were always a part of that something. No beginning. Anyway, in biblical language BEGOTTEN means unique, one of a kind. But see what it means in a dictionary: : brought into existence by or as if by a parent Which is why I dislike this word and why I...
  14. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Yes sir. But non-Christians do not believe the New Testament. They prefer to believe their HUMAN teachers... those that do not teach Christianity.
  15. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Yahweh is still in the Old Testament: Exodus 64:6-7 6 Then Yahweh passed by in front of him and called out, “Yahweh, Yahweh God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and [a]truth; Isaiah 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” declares Yahweh, “And My servant whom...
  16. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    So who is this child that will be called MIGHTY GOD? (for those reading along the verse is Isaiah 9:6) Is it a descendent of David? He'll be a mighty God? And verse 9:2 THE PEOPLE WHO WALK IN DARKNESS SHALL SEE A GREAT LIGHT. Sounds a lot like: Matthew 4:16-17 12-17 When Jesus got word...
  17. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Do YOU ever answer my questions? NO. I will say this: I am NOT a LDS, or, as they hate to be called A MORMON. I'm a Christian Wrangler. I believe what Christians believe. Just try to remember that YOU are not Jesus. The Holy Spirit did not father you.... And Mary did not birth you.
  18. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Thanks for the extra verses Trevor. Now if we could only make everyone what begotten means. But, alas, we prefer to obey our human teachers instead of the word of God. Begotten: To come forth from,,,To be generated from,,, (biblical language)
  19. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    How many versions did you go through, online, to get that one distorted version you posted? You want to dumb down scripture? Let's see what THE MESSAGE has to say about your verse.... 1 John 4:15 13-16 This is how we know we’re living steadily and deeply in him, and he in us: He’s given us...
  20. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Old story GH. Some bibles actually say YAWEH. Looks like God still has His name. Looks like man cannot change God or His name. You also keep posting incorrect information about church history. I'm tired of debating this with you. You also keep stating that there are two Gods. Gosh...even the...