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Making it personal shows you have lost the argument. In my experience, the importance of corporal punishment is much more the threat of it. Although YMMV, I found the threat of it indispensable tool to instill discipline.

God is a warrior and The ultimate solution to evil chosen by God, himself, is violence, annihilate evil in the Lake of Fire. That should tell you something. Violence solves problems, despite the rhetoric to the contrary. It’s odd that overly-spiritualized people either deny it or their delicate...

Now the police have to get involved and use violence that their parents failed to teach them in having the discipline to respect boundaries.

There is not much context to proverbs. Adding context changes nothing about the command to beat kids with a rod.

You grant it only "appears" to support corporal punishment. Gotcha! :gd Friend, the Bible does not argue; it commands. You're repeating yourself and it's obvious you started this thread to argue against corporal punishment. The very question of the thread reveals this; is it OK. That which is...

He's fighting a war in Iran. Do you know what doctors in Iran look like? The man is great by every measure. You'll be surprised what is not insulting if you don't take it as insulting.

This is not a short vid but after the first 10 minutes they show teen take overs, the result of poor parenting.

Another vid on point

So says his deranged enemies. He said he portrayed himself as a doctor healing people. I find i5 funny how the media react to all his antics, showing how he plays them like a fiddle. They can’t help being offended by everything he does. It’s comical, a great fringe benefit of a Trump...

I recommend No More Christian Nice Guy: When Being Nice--Instead of Good--Hurts Men, Women, and Children Paperback – July 5, 2016 by Paul Coughlin...

I don’t believe you for one second. I noticed none of your rationalizations quote Scripture.

This is you verse to support it is the parents failure when corporal punishment is needed!! LOL

What Bible verse says that? And by extension, coercive force in society is a failure of government, words should do. Since words aren't enough for adults, how can we expect them to be enough for children, younger than the age of reason?

You might be talking about a small application of the use of force. I'm not willing to pick and choose its righteousness in the name of "sticking to the subject." And I think you know what I'm talking about.

True but one thing is not the other thing. And you can go out of bounds with anything. Exceptions don't make rules. For cops safety, should we allow pull overs? Some violent criminals take it too far ...

Nope. Not different at all one little bit. We embrace as a society the use of physical force or not. Military and police are known for causing serious injury. Why exclude them from the analysis? And why focus only on children being the recipients of corporal punishment? Only difference is who...

This is what I was referring to. The whole idea of punishing children is in getting them to submit to parental authority. So, if Corporal punishment is done independent of this alignment, then yes. Otherwise no. Let me give an example of a bad punishment, useless work. One story is the mother...

One would not know that Jesus followers follow a Jew by many post in this thread!

The @quietthinker s of the world have NO sympathy for innocent Americans killed by illegals.

This Karen was undoubtedly raised where there was no corporal punishment! She was raised to use her voice when she sees something wrong. Women and children has NO BUSINESS approaching an armed man acting violently! Men should always be respected, PERIOD. If nothing else, women and children...