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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    For me chapters 3-6 of Revelation are past history, in fact a vision of the realm of heaven, not from heaven but of heaven and all that came to pass as the triune God-head ordained all that would come to pass upon the earth through the Lamb of God as He and the saints wage a great spiritual...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    I know the feeling! The other day I visited with a neurologist, and he told me that as we age our brain shrinks! I laughed and said NOW I get it! LOL Much love!
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    You could not be more wrong on that EG. The Old Covenant nation was given the knowledge of a Messiah/Redeemer that would come to save them. Those of faith believed the Law that pointed them to the Messiah, and the Prophets who foretell His coming. Yes, I agree salvation has always been for...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    You don't believe the sheep/goat judgment, like the wheat/tares concern all believers and all unbelievers not dependent upon race, but upon faith? Actually I am considering Rev 5:6, 6:1 giving no comments regarding the names written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    I believe Joel's prophecy begins at Pentecost and shall end with the great and notable day of the Lord's return. According to vs 21 the timing is when whosoever from every nation of the world shall call on the name of the Lord to be saved. This is IMO the whole Gospel age of grace. Acts 2:21...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Here are a few verses off the top of my head that IMO prove we have eternal/everlasting spirit life after our body has died. And it seems clear, at least to me that the spirit alive through the Holy Spirit within ascends to heaven still a living, (through without physical form) soul...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I don't mind questions David, in fact I love them especially if I believe my answer will be helpful. But discussions such as they are can only be beneficial if both sides give answers for what appears to be inconsistencies or contradictions found with the doctrines we hold. You say above you...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    I believe that "last days" is the same time that began to be fulfilled with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, and will not be finished until the seventh trumpet begins to sound. It's the beginning of the fulfillment of the Prophet Joel, who says "And it shall come to pass in the...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    If you have doubts about what you believe is biblical truth, then I agree, it would be better not to participate. What is wrong with arguing for what you believe is true? I see Christ arguing for truth and against the doctrine of the Scribes and Pharisees, and I see Paul also arguing for truth...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    How does what I've said prove Amil believes God is finished with Israel? The Gospel is available to ALL people, and even Israel in unbelief can enter the spiritual Kingdom of God by being born again by grace through faith.
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    We'll see how that goes! Thank you, much love to you as well.
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    I sincerely apologize that is what it appears. It is not my intention to be rude and disrespectful of others. When a discussion is started that assumes to have understanding for the doctrine of Amil, then proceeds to prove what they think is NOT in fact the doctrine of Amil, I find the agenda...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    It would be wonderful to have a polite and respectful discussion with all who participate in these threads. Sadly, they tend to turn into heated debates when error of ones doctrine is shown. That's exactly what happened in the thread similar to this one. Much love to you as well marks!
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    Then the purpose for these discussions should be to learn what is true of other positions before assuming they are unbiblical.
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    How is wanting to speak biblical truth causing a ruckus??? By sharing the doctrine of Amillennialism that I believe is the only position regarding biblical eschatology that does not force contradiction into God's Word, I am already labeled the enemy by those of you who desire to prove my...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    This is not quite correct. Amil doesn't believe God is done with Israel! Quite the contrary in fact. We believe ALL ISRAEL shall be saved. However ALL ISRAEL includes Gentiles who are grafted into the good olive tree of faith with Israelites of faith, so ALL ISRAEL that shall be saved is NOT...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    Yes, by all means we should close down anyone who dares to come with doctrine that proves our doctrine is unbiblical! FWIW we have been living in the end of days of this world since Christ came to earth a man with the spiritual Kingdom of God that is within you. A Kingdom btw many of you...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I didn't write anything that John did not! You're finding it difficult to accept that John is saying lived and reigned because it destroys the doctrine of Premillennialists looking for a literal one thousand more years of time on this earth when Christ comes again. Never imagined spirits in...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I find people generally, (speaking for myself as well) like replies they feel are based on Biblical truths. While I find it complementary, all the glory is to God alone! I don't reply to garner likes or dislikes, I reply because I am compelled by the Spirit of Christ within me to show what God...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    You're again ignoring the tenses. It does not say as you do "then began to live and reign with Christ". John writes they LIVED and REIGNED a thousand years. PAST TENSE, because they lived and reigned with Christ during this time symbolized a thousand years before they were martyred for their...