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Got it. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. So the Church is raptured to heaven. It has to be before the...

The coming of the Lord in Revelation 14 occurs at the 6th seal. It is also the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24. This happens Before wrath and is the gathering from heaven and earth. It is the Jews that are gathered from the earth and the Church that is gathered from heaven. So I fully understand...

Sounds like you have finally figured out that you are in the foolish virgins camp, those not watching as instructed, and panic has set in.

Mmmm. I guess you can't grasp what is going on. The Thessalonians were afraid that they had missed the gathering, when the Lord comes to gather the elect from heaven and earth. They were afraid that they were in the day of the Lord, the seventh seal. Paul assures them that they are not in the...

Sorry, the scripture PROVES you wrong. 2 Thes 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of...

What in the world are you talking about? When the seal is actually open, the event will happen. When a trumpet is blown by an angel the event will happen. When a vial is poured by an angel the event will happen. The Bible states that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our...

And yet the tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. No man knows the day nor the hour. This verse is talking about the gathering from heaven and earth, that occurs BEFORE the day of Christ. This confirms what I have said. Jesus comes at the 6th...

Please. The fullness of the Gentiles must come in before God turns His attention to His Chosen as shown in Romans 11. The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel as shown in Daniel 9. The fact that you are not watching for the soon coming of the Messiah, as instructed by Jesus...

This is total baloney. When Israel was scattered, they do not quit being Israel. They are blind and cannot become the Church. This nonsense is passed down from unbelievers.

You seem more desperate to deny the facts. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Do you pretend this verse is not there and go on about your blindness. I...

Oh boy. When the seal is opened, the coming of Jesus happens. Ok. Explain why wrath happens AFTER Jesus has set up His kingdom. You do not understand what you are reading. IT'S ALL OVER AT THE 7TH TRUMPET. WRATH IS OVER. THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD. IT IS...

So you're saying you are pre trib? I conclude because here are 24 elders in heaven with crowns before the seals are opened. So you must be pretrib. Rev 4 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment...

The sixth seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest when He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Wrath is over at the 7th trumpet as the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. In other words, Christ has set up His kingdom on earth. I know. Here is...

It's like going at a stadium and seeing the two football teams come out of the tunnel and saying it's game time. But the game will not start until the ball is kicked off, just as wrath will not start until the 7th seal is opened and the 1st trumpet sounds.

I thought the 5 wise were brides. Never thought in those terms about the foolish.

I already have. Some of the things off the top of my head is that the bridegroom must pay a price. He then goes to his fathers house to prepare a place. The father tells him when it's time to go. The bridegroom comes for the bride and takes her home. The bridegroom does not go to war for 1 year...

The 144,000 are first fruits of the second harvest. The second harvest will occur after the Church has been raptured. Don't be ignorant of this. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in...

I'm pretty confident also. I won't ask you who, but would you say he comes from the Americas (North and South) or from the rest of the world? Soon I suspect. A couple of thing to be aware of. There is a beast of the earth and a beast of the sea. Also, the beast of the earth has two horns. Well...

There are 5 wise virgins and 5 foolish. The wise are watching and ready for the bridegroom. The foolish are watching for the Antichrist.

First let me stand "in agreement" with you. Tribulation is not wrath. And yes, the error that most people that believe in a pretribulation rapture make is that they believe that the Tribulation and wrath are the same thing. It is completely wrong. And yet, the fact that you understand this gives...