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That's the way you want to read it, but that is NOT what it says!

God created man with a body of flesh & bone and breathed into them the breath of life, which is man's spirit. The spirit in man from creation God called "very good". That spirit was made in the likeness and image of God, Who is Spirit. When man heeded the voice of evil and disobeyed God, man...

None are excluded! This speaks of the condition of mankind before they are born again.

All of humanity was there according to seed! We are born of the seed that came from Adam. The way I can hear what was spoken in the garden at creation is through the Word that God has graciously given us.

Actually there is! The Bible is filled with verses and passages to remind that we must become more and more dependent upon Him and less and less dependent upon self. Not because we can be tempted and fall away, but because God chastens whom He loves. And in this life, in this world there will...

Yes it does! Which is why the passage reminds believers who possess these things that they shall never again be lost! It's really amazing the length in which the author goes to prove we are eternally secure in Christ because we can never fall away from Him.

Of course God does not believe for us! Instead He gives us faith to believe in Him. Having faith is the work of God, and through His work man believes in Him for eternal life.

That's not what the Bible says! If a new born infant were born of God, why aren't infants excluded from this description of ALL mankind? Romans 3:10-12 (KJV) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They...

Since I too became a disciple of Christ, what is spoken by Christ is for me and all His disciples to the end of days! God doesn't need to use force! No! He sends His Spirit that we might hear His Gospel proclaimed and by His grace through faith we believe and in repentance turn to Christ for...

What's any of that got to do with possessing eternal life when we are born again through Christ's Spirit within? We either have eternal life being eternally secure in Christ, or we don't! Believer or unbeliever!

I am able to believe by faith that came from God's grace when I heard the Gospel preached and through the power of the Holy Spirit believed in Christ for eternal life. Whosoever believes shall be saved... How shall they believe in whom they have not heard... How shall they hear but through...

The passage begins "for impossible" not "if possible". What does he say is impossible? For those enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, partakers of the Holy Spirit, tasted the good word of God, and powers of the world to come. IOW the writer is assuring us of salvation telling us what is...

Exactly! If they had truly been born again through the Spirit of Christ within, they would not have departed from the faithful saints. The fact that they did, does not mean they lost what they never possessed! As you've rightly said they NEVER believed!

It's only by being one in Christ that man once again possesses free will! We aren't free until we are made free from bondage to sin and death! As long as we are in bondage to sin and death, we remain natural, fallen man. As a natural man we are only free to choose that which is natural to us...

It's typically those who think they had something to do to be saved who generally believe they can be lost. Since the work of salvation could not have been accomplished without their effort, then their effort can wane and they can again become lost. Sad really!

How can a believer stop believing having the Holy Spirit of Christ within you? The Spirit within is always testifying of Christ to our spirit. John 15:25-26 (KJV) But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. But when...

The conditional statements apply only to those who are among believers, who are in fact liars and deceivers! Remember the wheat and tares grow together until the end of days. We are warned again and again not to be deceived by those tares pretending to be wheat.

Unbelief is not being lost, it's never having been found! You can't lose something you never possessed!

I have come to feel the same way regarding how little you understand of biblical doctrine. I won't be wasting any more time replying to you because you have not at this point in time ears to hear or eyes to see. You have become too indoctrinated by false teachers!

Who are you arguing against? The Word of God was given to man that they might know Him and come to glorify Him! The Word gives man not only a historical record from the beginning of creation, but it is also a record from the beginning of Redemptive History. It is through study of the whole...