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  1. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Because the point is that those time frames of events are inseparable from the day that Jesus returns.
  2. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your question from your post 669. My response: What makes the beginning of the day of the Lord sudden and unexpected is that the world will be saying "peace and safety" thinking it has entered the messianic age. When, about three years into the (false) messianic age, the Antichrist without...
  3. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    All of these passages of end times time frames are the Word of God. You are avoiding that part of the sacred text regarding the end times
  4. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You don't have timeline charts and you don't include any of the end times time frames in your posts.
  5. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No it is not. It is very common to those of us who hold the futurist premil view.
  6. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are both you and WPM preterists as well as being Amil ?
  7. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What ! Matthew 24:15-30 is about 70 AD ? Jesus was seen coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory - in 70 AD. Are you preterist ? You are playing word games. There is one Second Coming of Jesus back to stand on this earth. Differently there is the coming of Jesus...
  8. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    A temple built with the "intent" to be for the worshiping and praise of God.
  9. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There will be a temple built because in Revelation 11:1-2, John was told to measure the temple of God. 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is...
  10. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Putting an end to the falling away and the man of sin as you are saying - is a positive thing, right. So why would the Thessalonians have been concerned that the day of the Lord had already begun ?
  11. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The temple is not yet built. I agree on that point. And is unlikely to be built until after the Gog/Magog event - because of the Muslim presence on the temple mount.. That the Antichrist goes into the temple (once built), sits, claiming to have God-hood - will be a sudden without warning act...
  12. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The great tribulation lasts 1335 days. And fits within the latter part of the Daniel 9:27 seventh week (7 years). 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them...
  13. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is "rabbit" the error ? And please stop saying that have I been "taught" things from some human teacher. You don't know anything about my walk with the Lord. What ? It is right in the text. 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by...
  14. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The great tribulation is referred to by Jesus in Matthew 24:15-30 as being just prior to His Second Coming in verse 30b.
  15. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jesus in Matthew 24:15-21 said the great tribulation will begin when the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel is standing in the holy place. In Daniel 12:11-12 is the setting up of the abomination of desolation - which begins the great tribulation. Which ends in verse 12...
  16. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What day ? The day of Lord, which will begin when the man of sin is revealed by going into the temple, sitting claiming to have achieved God-hood, 2Thessalonians2:4. The rapture, which Luke 21:34-46 is referring to, will take place before the day of the Lord begins.
  17. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What about escaping having to go through the great tribulation, which will be 1335 days long (Daniel 12:11-12) ?
  18. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I don't believe the full 7 years are tribulation. You are avoiding the question, I asked you in my post #529... In Luke 21:34-36, what do the ones counted worthy "escape" ? 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and...
  19. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I repeat again - they do not escape the great tribulation. In Luke 21:34-36, what do the ones counted worthy "escape" ? 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares...
  20. Douggg

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I answered the question with "yes", the wicked will have to go through the great tribulation when the day of the Lord comes upon them like a thief in the night.