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This is the fact that most miss. As you say, the 144,000 are first fruits. That means that there will be a harvest. Therefore, the 144,000 are not the Church and the 144,000 are not all of Israel. They are EXACTLY what the Word says they are........first fruits. And that means that there will be...

The scripture does not say the moon shines bright red, it says the moon will be as blood. Look up "what is a blood moon" on the internet and it will tell you a blood moon is a total lunar eclipse. FACT. You are referring to a solar ecliplse, not a lunar eclipse. No. I did not avoid it. In...

Early tonight. Start the week strong. Me too.

:thumbsup: In a total lunar eclipse the moon goes dark and then the red light waves bend around the earth and the moon becomes as blood. So you are incorrect that these are different events, as the moon will both not give her light and will be as blood in a total lunar eclipse. The coming of...

Pre trib rapture says He leaves heaven to meet us in the air at "A" resurrection. The Church will be raptured before the seals are opened as the seals are the time of Jacobs trouble. This is just another old, misunderstood Bible verse that gets passed around as truth when it surely is not...

I couldn't less what commentators say. What would they know? The book has been sealed until the time of the end when many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall increase. Additionally, there are many that could not even believe that God would restore the nation of Israel as He stated in His...

God gives many plain facts that should not be spiritualized. When scripture is spiritualized, the true meaning is lost. We will know when God is defining something as it will be clear. Both will fall. Jeremiah 50 The word that the Lord spake against Babylon and against the land of the...

There is a rapture, the Jews, but that is not Midtrib. It is post trib before the wrath of God. The rapture in Revelation 14 takes place at the 6th seal. The 6th seal is immediately after the tribulation and before the wrath of God.

I'm pretty sure of that also. I should have said the 7th trumpet blown by an angel is the second advent when Jesus returns to set up His kingdom. (what they think is the last trumpet),

You see one rapture when the scripture shows two, a grain and a fruit harvest. The fig tree has two harvests........FACT. Jacob had two brides....FACT. One coming the Lord Himself comes for the bride. Another coming He sends His angels. One coming it is like the days of Noah and one coming like...

The second coming when all eyes will see the coming of the Lord takes place at the harvest at the 6th seal. This coming is marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. The last trumpet is the second advent when Jesus returns to set up His kingdom. The problem is that He sends His angels to...

There are two raptures. One pretrib for the Church and one post trib for the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman. That is why there are 144,000 first fruits. The woman, Israel, those that flee to a place of protection, go through the wrath of God. All believers are at the marriage...

1 Cor 15 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. Why would I possibly see the...

We have one scripture in 1 Thes 4 that says the dead in Christ are raised first and then the alive believers that remained will be caught up. Then we have another scripture in 1 Corinthians 15 that says the dead and alive are changed in the twinkling of an eye. And neither of them happens at the...

Acts 3 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. It does not say "Whom the heaven must KEEP" until the restitution of all things. It says must receive. The Lord returns to the...

The "man" of Lawlessness cannot possibly be Satan, as when the Lord appears at His coming, he destroys this man. We know Satan is bound for 1000 years when Jesus returns and we know the man of lawlessness is killed. They cannot be the same. Be wise and change your mind as the facts compel it.

What about this verse? It looks like the Antichrist will go into the Temple of God. What Temple would this be? 2 Thes 2 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who...

So I guess you think another Temple is not going to be built??????

Rest well brother.

I see no indication that the Church is raptured then. Additionally, the verse you quote is not about the Church being gathered from the earth, as they are gathered from heaven. The last trump is blown on the Feast of Trumpets and announces the fall fruit harvest of the 6th seal and is not a...