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The strange thing is: none of the early Chiliasts mention, teach or recognize any corruption, Satan or evil entering their future millennium. It is perfect and pristine (just what all Premils would want). Victorinus was the first of the orthodox writers to teach that the wicked populate a future...

This is the complete opposite to the modern day Premillennial expectation - which is another age like our own full of all the bondage of corruption.

I will ignore your insults. I will keep to the issues. There's nothing that you are quoting that disagrees with what I said. The Chiliasts believed in the future thousand years, but it was perfect and pristine. You fail to see that it was not polluted with all the corruption you force into it...

What? That is the most ridiculous statement i have heard. No. 1, it does not say anywhere in Revelation 20 that this is after the second coming, or is there any biblical corroboration to support that. No. 2, it does not say that Jesus is on earth for these thousand years anywhere, the...

Not true. Those fathers believed more of the Amil fundamentals than modern-day Premil. They anticipated a perfect earth eternally free of sin and sinners, dying and crying, decay and disease, Satan and his demons. Your view blights your millennial earth with all this in abundance. This is...

Lol. The burden of proof is with you too prove what you're claiming. Revelation 20 says nothing about your claim. You force it into that. You add on the Scripture. So, it is time for you to put your evidence on the table.

They can only go there if God gives them the power and faith to go there. Without the gift of faith no one can believe. Romans 3:11-12 explains why, saying, “There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become...

It is pretty simple when you do not have to fight with the Word. Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

He's not worth wasting time on. He is projectionist. He's describing himself in his charges. He is representing nobody but himself. All he has now is avoidance and petty name-calling.

Dry your eyes and grow up.

Where does Rev 20 teach Jesus would come and rule on this earth?

What is new? This is the new norm. Their view has been totally demolished on these forums. There is nothing to bring to the table.

When you place Revelation 20:11-15 together with all the other second coming passages you see that it correlates beautifully with them. In fact, it mirrors them in remarkable detail. You would search in vain to find any Scripture that corroborates the idea of another judgment day 1000 years...

This exposes the folly of Premil. Where does it say Revelation 20:11-15 is "the judging of the lost dead"? That is another Premil myth promoted to convince the deluded and ignorant, who cannot take the time to search the text and see it is another Premil illusion.

Where did i misrepresent the dilemma that premillennialist face in the thread? You're always quick to make sweating teams but slow to come up with actual evidence.

So, will you show us in Revelation 20 where Jesus is reigning on earth?

He is talking generally about a nation, particularly 2 camps within the nation. Not so much individuals. Granted blindness generally does not require reprobation. But when God does it, it is over. Paul saw the blindness of the Christ-rejecting camp has not wholesale or final. He saw the...

LOL. This all you have. Pettiness. Address the Op, if you can.

If you have nothing to bring to the table then please remove yourself from this thread. You're derailing it.

You ignore the context, genre and setting. You have to. You are happy to spiritualize "one hour" as a short period of time but are adamantly against spiritualizing "a thousand years" as a long period of time. Hmmmm!