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What an interesting topic. I am truly on the fence with this one. I see where both sides are coming from. Gids, I miss you!!

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I am so glad you are feeling better! Pray about everything, even weight loss, and God will help you with it. I had gained weight from medication and I learned the value of prayer and patience when it comes to weightloss. Slow and sustainable changes over time are the way to go. When trying a...

What an excellent post!

An Apologetic Sheepdog did make a good point. Eve was formed out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22-24). She isn't dust. God imparted life from Adam into her. The same way life is imparted once a baby is formed from the sperm and the egg.

I try to seek answers in the Bible when I have questions now. The internet and Bible Gateway make this so easy. Plus, I try to read through the entire Bible so I can be familiar with verses that people are quoting. I agree that we should display love for one another as the body of Christ.

Be patient. God understands. She's on the way. I will pray for you and your future spouse.

I just think that saying life doesn't transfer directly to the fetus because of how Adam was created is a huge assumption.

So you don't think a fetus is a life because Adam was dust until God breathed life into Him? At what point does the fetus become a life, in your opinion? Does God just wait to give the fetus a soul till the moment it comes out of the womb? God has authority to give and take life. We don't have...

Okay, that is a nice argument.

I lean toward choice, simply because God may know who makes the choice to be saved but that isn't the same as making the choice for them. But lets go to the Scriptures. In the election and predestination corner of the ring, we have Romans 9: 10-12 Romans 9:10-12 King James Version 10 And...

So here is the thing, MatthewG. I think the Bible supports both. I will find the Scriptures on why I think this and post them in a little bit.

I still haven't found it. Are you sure it's there?? Just kidding (I found it)

I found it in the last chapter. I haven't found it in the first chapter.

I went to look this up in my Bible. It is interesting. Good to see you, farouk!

I hear you! You hear about grace all the time nowadays. There has to be a balance from the Word of God.

Oh my goodness, have not seen it. But I need to!!

@Wrangler, what do you think of verses that state or imply that Jesus is God? Here are two. John 10:29-30 King James Version 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one. John 8:58 King James...

Yes?? I must be missing something or this thread is clearly above my paygrade. Im sure there is a grand theological statement here that is completely escaping me right now. The only thing I can think is that you're implying that Jesus is not fully God.