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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Or the remnant according to election of grace symbolically (144,000) showing faithful saints who died believing in Messiah to come. They are included in the innumerable multitude that come from every nation, tribe, kindred and tongue. These are seen again, after being sealed by the Spirit, in...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yes, this is a common tactic of some when attempting to understand the prophetic words of Christ from the Mt of Olives. It's symbolic when that fits your doctrinal point of view, but when it doesn't it must be interpreted literally! Which is why I disagree with your claim! You want it both...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    You need to read the letter to the Romans in CONTEXT! Paul shows us that before we are born again we are natural man, which is what he is describing when he says "there are none righteous, none that seek God"! That is what ALL mankind are before they are born again! I don't really care what...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    Mankind is not destined to physically die because of Adam's particular transgression! We are destined to physical death because death through sin entered into God's creation when Adam sinned. For this reason death is passed unto all mankind, because there are none righteous, no, not one...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    If you're following my replies to TS you'll know why I believe the Olivet Discourse must be discerned as dual fulfillment. The prophesy is not only literally fulfilled against the apostate nation, it is also being spiritually fulfilled for the disciples of Christ in every age.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Christ speaking of the Jews holy city and temple was indeed speaking of its utter literal destruction, and that prophesy was fulfilled in 70 AD. Christ also spoke to His first century Jewish disciples, as well as His disciples in every age, of Him giving His life on the cross, and telling us His...
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    Born again : = Get this knowledge.

    Some seem not to believe that God doesn't need our help to give eternal life to whosoever believes by grace through faith!
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    Born again : = Get this knowledge.

    How do you reconcile the verses you believe say we can lose our salvation with verses that say the life we receive through Christ when we believe is eternal? There cannot be contradiction in the Word of God! Btw I don't hear anyone but those of you who believe our eternal life can be forfeited...
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    Born again : = Get this knowledge.

    Problem for some is that they have no concept or understanding of the word 'eternal'!
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    All have sinned, but not all have died! Unless of course you mean that sin brought physical death upon every living breathing creature upon the earth, and one day we shall all physically die. We don't die when we sin, we sin because we are born with the natural nature of Adam, who introduced...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    God created man with a body and a spirit or breath of life, to give the body physical life. What God created He said was, "very good." Man had the ability to live forever IF he obeyed God. We all know of Adam's disobedience. God said that on the day man disobeyed God they would DIE! They...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    Paul was not referring to physical death when he says we were DEAD in trespasses and sins. He was speaking of how we are spiritually DEAD before new birth. I agree when Adam sinned all of his progeny would be born physically alive, spiritually DEAD. And they will remain spiritually DEAD in...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    This is not quite accurate. Because the physical destruction in 70 AD was foretold by Christ when the disciples pointed to the physical city and physical buildings. Yes, I realize and understand the spiritual fulfillment of these things through the crucifixion of Christ, but you cannot deny...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    If not the natural spirit in us, what does Paul mean when he says, we are DEAD in trespasses and sins before we are born again?
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    I agree we not created a tri-part being. Because the Word says man was created with a body + spirit (breath of life) and together we became living souls. But you are right about us being three part when we have the Holy Spirit giving spiritual life to our spirit. We could say after being born...
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    Born again : = Get this knowledge.

    Can you shed some light that explains exactly what you believe the spirit in all mankind is? I ask this of you because you say the spirit in mankind is NOT your mind, but the verse below tells us we are able to know/understand things of man by the spirit in him. 1 Corinthians 2:11 (KJV)...
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    The Bible teaches repentance unto confession, not confession unto repentance

    This is true! In this life whosoever is a true believer in Christ will repent, turn away from sin, and turn back to Christ again and again.
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    The Bible teaches repentance unto confession, not confession unto repentance

    Ghada, it appears to me that what you lacked in the beginning of your life with Christ was sanctification! When we are born again through the power of His Word and Spirit in us we were made holy, but not yet perfect before God. We shall never be perfect before God as long as we live in our...
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    The Bible teaches repentance unto confession, not confession unto repentance

    Where does 'faith' enter into your equation? I know this may appear to be much ado about nothing, because faith and believing both mean the same thing. Though this is true there is a nuance we must consider to rightly understand how Scripture uses faith followed by our believing. Faith to...
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    Soul vs SPIRIT

    I realize you think you've proven the Bible says nothing about those who are spiritually DEAD being unable, through their free will, to turn to Christ for eternal life. You reason that since the New Testament was written for the Church, which is what those who have been made spiritually alive...