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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    The elect in this case is the Jews. Jesus is talking about the beast of the sea. He gives this warning: Matthew 24 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. Jesus...
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    Brother. With your lack of understanding, you are in for a surprise. And all things that you have spoken against the truth.........ouch. You might study to show thyself approved and stop listening to those who think they have replaced Israel.
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    Your first problem is that the last day occurs at the 6th seal. It is the gathering from heaven and earth IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION and BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD. That's where it all falls apart for you. You want to make the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal, the coming of Jesus AFTER...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Great. No problem here. It's when you take the written Word of God and dream up the answer that you want to hear instead of JUST ACCEPTING WHAT IS WRITTEN, that there's a problem.
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    The trumpets and vials are certainly parallel, but the seals are not parallel. The seals go in order. The 1st four seals are the being of sorrows in Matthew 24. The fifth seal is the great tribulation. The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for the second harvest BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD. You...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    So let me get this straight. If you want know what I believe you just read what the Word says and accept what is written. If I want to know what you believe I have to go through a personal interpretation and figure out what all you have made up. It seems much easier and more fruitful to just...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Also, if you understood that they are first fruits you would understand what this is all about. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel...
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    The crisis that you are looking for is the pretribulation rapture. There is course will be an explanation that they have been promoting for a long time. Aliens.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Did it ever occur to you that these 144,000 are without fault is because they have become believers in Christ? Now let's let the Word shoot down your theory that they are the Church. In Revelation 14 we see they are redeemed FROM THE EARTH. They are BEFORE THE TRONE IN HEAVEN. Revelation 14 3...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    My theory is that it says what it means. No mystery that needs to solved.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is absolutely nothing in those verses about the 144,000 that would point to them being the Church. If it was the Church all John would have to do is use the word Church. Instead John goes to a lengthy description of exactly what and who those 144,000 are. Instead of accepting the written...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    At the 6th seal, which is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24, and the harvest of Revelation 14, Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. This happens immediately after the tribulation and before the wrath of God which is marked by the signs of...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    How can you possibly make this statement. There is a time stamp at the sixth seal and Matthew 24. Both events are marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. By this time stamp we can tell that Jesus returns to the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect............IMMEDIATELY AFTER...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    When Revelation 6 is read, we can see that the six seal is opened and there are signs of the sun, moon and stars. When Matthew 24 is read, we can see that Jesus returns and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. It is also marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    The 7th seal is the WRATH OF GOD. There is 30 minutes of silence as the earth says peace and safety as the tribulation is over. And then the wrath of God begins. The sixth seal is the second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. It is not the second advent when Jesus puts His feet on...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It never occurs to many of you that these 144,000 are exactly what God says they are. There is no chance to understand scripture when you don't accept what it says. The 144,000 are first fruits of the second harvest.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Many men of this earth would likely incorrectly conclude that it has to do with the Lion of the tribe of Judah, but the true answer is given by Paul in writings of 1st Corinthians.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Let's see...........make something up to fit our doctrine .............or go with the scripture. I think I'll stick with what is written........as usual.
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    I think it would a good idea to note this covenant and keep an eye on it. How many 7 year covenants have you seen in your lifetime? Additionally, I would have to conclude that the UN should be considered many. I would also note the timeline and conclusion in 2030. Ezekiel 4 makes that...