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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    Let's deal with the facts. You think that the tribulation and the wrath of God are the same thing. Now that I have posted verses that prove they are not, you have no answers and want to put the few marbles you have left back in the bag and go home before you lose them all. It's a common strategy...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    No. At the 6th seal He is coming for the harvest of the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth. They will be compensated as they will join the Church as the second bride for the marriage supper. Jacob had two brides. The fig tree has two harvests and there are also two harvests of...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    You are correct when the great tribulation begins. The great tribulation does not end with the coming of Jesus at the end of wrath. Tribulation and wrath are not the same event. Tribulation is Antichrist bringing tribulation against the people of God. Wrath is God bringing wrath against the...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    You are grouping the tribulation and the wrath of God into the same timeframe. They are completely different events. Revelation 6:12-17 Is telling us that the tribulation is OVER. Jesus has returned for the second harvest. We can see the second harvest at the end of Revelation 14. We can also...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    There is more than one verse that proves that the wrath of God lasts 1-year. Here is one of them. Isaiah 34 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it. 2 For the indignation of the Lord...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    All I did was prove your error. How is it that you cannot see that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. It's marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Revelation 13 occurs after the wrath of God is over. How is it that you are not able to understand that when the kingdoms of this...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    Wow. That was a lot of work. I noticed that you said that Revelation 11 lasts for 3.5 years. I don't believe this to be correct. I believe the wrath of God, Revelation 8-11, lasts 1-year. Isaiah 34 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    There's not. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. I bet over the years I have posted this more than 1000 times. It can't be any clearer. The tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. You will never understand the book of Revelation until you...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    So the question is when will the heavens disappear and be laid bare. That can occur at the 6th seal, the seventh trumpet or at the end of 1000 years? What you do not understand is that Christ returns to the clouds at the 6th seal. Christ returns to the earth at the end of the trumpets. When...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    Exactly. Matthew 24:15-21 tells us about the great tribulation. Then Matthew 24: 29-30 tells us the tribulation is over with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins which includes Armageddon. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    The verses you are quoting where the great city is divided occurs at the very end of wrath, after Armageddon and the return of the Lord. The verses where Babylon falls occurs before the great tribulation. Revelation 14 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    That great city is Vatican City. And where do you get the idea that it has an earthquake? The destruction is not an earthquake. Maybe it would help if you would read what merchandise is being sold. Revelation 18 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    When Jesus lands at the Mount of Olives, that will occur at the end of wrath when the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. The harvest at the 6th seal occurs before wrath, immediately after the tribulaiton. As for the trumpets, those are trumpets of wrath blown by an angel...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    The Church's tribulation will stop before the seals are opened. Jacob has two brides. Both will be rapture. The Church before the seals are opened and the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman at the 6th seal. That is the second coming. But it is not the second advent. That will...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    How can what you are saying be correct if heaven and earth pass away at that point. Think about that. When do heaven and earth pass away? Rev 21 21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    Jesus is not on His way to the Mount of Olives at the gathering from heaven and earth. Jesus is on His way for the second harvest. Jacob had two brides. No. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The wrath of God is getting ready to begin. No. The Churchs tribulation is over before the seals...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    How do you conclude things like this? You aren't the only one, I'll say that. I've heard the seals are nothing. How can that be. The seals are the final week. They are not opened yet and will not be opened until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Jesus returns at the 6th seal for the second...
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    There is a harvest at the 6th seal. Hence, there is a great multitude in heaven in Revleation 7. Ok. How long does the wrath of God last? Please provide scriptural support.
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    US Fulfillment of Rev.17:5 and Rev.18:2

    You say it all the time but don't realize you are saying it. If you look at your second to last sentence in this post, you say," I doubt the tribulation will last a year". The tribulation does not last a year, the wrath of God lasts a year. This is the whole point that you do not understand. The...
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    Rapture 2023? Don’t be Left Behind on the Late Great Planet Earth (or Worse)

    Yes. As instructed by the Master. When someone says "watch out" that's saying "be careful". That's not the same as saying what for His coming. Additionally, we cannot be deceived if we pay attention to what the Lord says. When the Lord comes it will be like lightning from the east to the west...