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David it doesn’t matter what everyone thinks it is or there different opinions all that matters is what the bible says that it is,and that is exactly what I showed Reread both passages word for word and see how they line up At both “the abomination that causes desolation“and “when Jerusalem...

Humm Matthew 24 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’[a] spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetopgo down to take anything out of the...

So your meaning the new heaven and earth then Yes Jesus will come down at the second coming in the future still I just don’t believe that’s what Daniel 7:13-14 is I believe that was Jesus going on the clouds to heaven the end of the journey He started in Acts chapter one

Sure but Acts 1 only says that a cloud hid Him not that He went up on a cloud. My point was that Daviel 7:13-14 happened when He went back up to heaven in Acts chapter 1. Coming on the clouds or a day of clouds in actually a symbolic sign of judgement

Of course, He's coming back to the earth I didn't dispute that my point was in Daniel 7:13-14 Jesus is going on the clouds too heaven not to the earth. I also believe that this happened when He ascended back up to heaven in Acts chapter 1. Daniel 7 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there...

I was asking again because I don't know what you mean exactly by Gods eternal realm is that in heaven or on the earth? If verses 9-10 are the second coming then how come Jesus is seen on the clouds after that? Notice that Jesu sis coming on the clods to heaven not to the earth?

So is the in heaven or on the eart. Then what do you believe versus 13-14 are?

Okay but do you believe that verses 9-10 shows a scene in heaven like in revelation chapter 22 or on the earth?

Then how would you explain this verse? Acts 7 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God

The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit

One God in three persons

Do you believe that verses 9-10 shows a scene in heaven like in revelation chapter 22 or on the earth?

Of course I do why woul dyou think that? What I was saying is that Jesu swasn't man anymore when He went back up to heaven

Are you saying that Jesus wasn't the slain lamb?

Yes of course Jesus could open the scroll because He wa sthe only one worthey but when Jesus went back up to heaven He was fully God

Its nice to agree once in a while eh? LOL

No I don't believe that any of Revelation is about Antiochus Epehanies. 3.5 years is described differently as in 1260 days, 3.5 years,42 months and a time times and half a time for a reason because they are different times and events

Did you see post #51Dave?

Yes, and Jesus is not just a mere man. Also, Jesus was symbolically as Lamb in chapter 5

Does that make sense to you? I added to post #6