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  1. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    When one gives unrestrained choice to ones creatures; when one loves because that's God's nature, vulnerability is front, left and centre and being exploited a real possibility. Lucifer, the shinning bright angel chose to exploit, the scripture telling us it was unremitting pride which drove...
  2. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    I don't think God will be gloating. I rather think that God will have tears in his eyes because his bright shinning star chose to alienate himself from life.
  3. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    The purpose being God is vindicated even by those opposed to him let alone the whole loyal Universe praising him. It'll be a confession drawn from denial and delusion swept away by the sheer weight of evidence.
  4. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    It'll be forced, not in the sense of a gun to the head but in the sense of overwhelming awareness of the Justice of God. Denial is swept away.....even Satan will go to his knees acknowledging God's ways are right and just. This does not mean their hearts are aligned with God's values nor do they...
  5. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    'Faith' in the sense that Jesus and the Apostles use it is to trust. Trust is a precious 'commodity' because it believes what is said. Those in the second resurrection acknowledges Jesus as Lord but have no faith in him in the same sense that I believe Satan is Lord of Demons or Prince of this...
  6. quietthinker

    Premarital sex, resulted in a life handed over to the cruel one (Proverbs 5:9) - now I can't escape? (help?)

    Choosing not to look at the serpent Moses had erected by those bitten was certainly final.
  7. quietthinker

    Premarital sex, resulted in a life handed over to the cruel one (Proverbs 5:9) - now I can't escape? (help?)

    The Hebrews rebelled in the desert after being liberated from slavery in Egypt. The protection afforded them from being overwhelmed by the vipers and scorpions which inhabited the desert deliberately pushed away. Yes, they were reaping what they sowed and now were dying from snakebite. Even in...
  8. quietthinker

    Hi!

    hello
  9. quietthinker

    Premarital sex, resulted in a life handed over to the cruel one (Proverbs 5:9) - now I can't escape? (help?)

    You don't need more information about yourself ie, what to do and what not to do. You need information which enables you to know your Saviour. Just as the Hebrews bitten by snakes in the desert and were dying........they were instructed to look at the serpent Moses erected on a pole .....and...
  10. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    Folk acknowledging defeat by recognising that Jesus is Lord does not constitute them loving the Lord or wanting a part of his Kingdom.....which is self sacrifice.
  11. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    We go nowhere at death. We cease to be.....until the resurrection, whether that's one hour or thousands of years at either the first or the second resurrection. There is no storage of 'souls' or 'spirits' as conscious entities anywhere anytime.
  12. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    The word 'breath' and 'spirit' are used interchangeably. There is no seperate conscious entity called 'spirit' just as there is no separate conscious entity called 'soul'. Folk get themselves in a tangled mess when these terms are given something seperate and other to the whole person. We are...
  13. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    Far far too complicated. Complications arise from a muddled and erroneous premise. If any of you have seen the comedy 'The God's must be Crazy' then you will understand how an erroneous view distorts the logic and how it is rationalised.
  14. quietthinker

    The (7th) Abomination That Maketh Desolate

    You don't understand why Jesus referenced it because your paradigm won't allow you to.
  15. quietthinker

    Is Revenge a Sin?

    I've heard of babelon, now I've heard of rambleon. :running:
  16. quietthinker

    Were We Alive In Heaven Before We Were Born?

    The record we have does not support this view. It sounds like something ingested from paganism.
  17. quietthinker

    Is Revenge a Sin?

    so why babble ?
  18. quietthinker

    Breakthrough

    Check out the ReDiscovering God link in my signature Wynona. You'll find plenty of interesting stuff.