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  1. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Find the scripture where Yahweh offers Heaven.
  2. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Anything but ignore your phrase elect remnant. I keep tell you that the phrase elect remnant is not in the scriptures. Was there a group of Jews in the 1st century that converted to Christianity? Yes. Are there any remnant of Jews that do not believe in Jews that are saved? No.
  3. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Looked forward to the cross? They looked forward to killing their Messiah? I don't think so. Is the cross mentioned? No. The prophecies of the Old Testament did not tell of the sacrifice of the Messiah. The Old Testament Jews looked forward to a powerful human warlord king that would take out...
  4. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. I copy verse into the posts so that readers can follow. Yes it is clear
  5. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    But who are "they" The only faithful in regard to salvation are Christians. As you say--->Those who reject Christ can never own the title of God’s elect. This is true. But no one in the Old Testament accepted Christ.
  6. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    A lot of Christians believe that the Jews that did not believe in Yeshua went to Hell then and now. As I have said before, I believe Yahweh has a plan for the Jews.....and has not given up for them. BUT, that plan is not clear.
  7. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Elect chosen for what? Clear as mud. These verses are not clear of their disposition. And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal. So it is referring to the Old Testament Jews. How does it relate to 1st century Jews and...
  8. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The topic is about salvation with no mention of a heavenly reward in the Old Testament. For the Hebrews/Israelites/ Jews, as far as Heaven was concerned that was where Yahweh and angel were. Not the abode of humans. The Old Testament does not speak of bad people in Hell or good people in...
  9. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    T Now this is a problem. How can you ask--->So there were no OT believers? In response to----> Salvation was not possible until Yeshua passed on the cross. If this is how you read things you have no hope of understanding the scriptures. Get someone to read them to you and then explain them to you.
  10. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Salvation was not possible until Yeshua passed on the cross. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given...
  11. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Your try to propose a belief that is not biblical and insultive as you go. I think I have show great patience considering your sad examples of a preposterous belief.
  12. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    So far your "argument" only exists in your head.
  13. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord...