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    Dead in Sin !

    Repentance there is to the regenerate. Unregenerate people cant repent, they are legally bound to the law. That command is strictly for the saved regenerate, and its effectual. Christ gives them repentance in the first place Acts 5 31; Acts 11 18 And besides that, it does no good to command a...
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    Dead in Sin !

    No you are. Christ draws simply all whom He draws which results in believing in Him. In fact the drawing is conversion to Him, and the drawing is the new birth !
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    Dead in Sin !

    But it doesn't say without exception. You are adding to the scriptures and you do what you condemn in others. That is hypocritical.
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    Dead in Sin !

    It's a given, it's the new birth of the Spirit doing the drawing. A inwardly impelling.
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    Dead in Sin !

    No you scoff truth by calling it a name of a man.
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    Pre-Destined Elect - simplified.

    Well what you said is a man made doctrine!
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    Dead in Sin !

    False. When they are drawn to Christ they are saved and born again. No such thing as a opportunity to be born again. That is man made doctrine.
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    Pre-Destined Elect - simplified.

    What you said is ?
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    Dead in Sin !

    False when a person is drawn to Christ they are born again.
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    Pre-Destined Elect - simplified.

    False statement. There's no such thing as being given a opportunity to receive Christ. That is man made doctrine!
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    Pre-Destined Elect - simplified.

    You have to have been born again to have faith. Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Gal 5 22
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    Dead in Sin !

    All without exception don't come to Christ, which means believe in Him. So if all without exception don't believe in Christ, He didn't or doesn't draw without exception. Scripture never said that either, it's false teaching.
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    Dead in Sin !

    It's still error!
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    Dead in Sin !

    That is error.
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    Dead in Sin !

    That is a different subject. This thread is about men are dead in sin. They're spiritually dead until Christ make them alive.
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    Dead in Sin !

    So what does that mean. All without exception? Yes or No
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    Dead in Sin !

    C'mon give me a break. Men are saved by Christ
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    Dead in Sin !

    You must be hard of hearing and reading, Didnt I just tell you this: Im not here to talk about me personally, but the doctrine of spiritual inability of men in general. Thats because by nature all men, me and you and anybody else in the whole wide world, are by nature dead in sin ! No spiritual...
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    Dead in Sin !

    Yes He did all men to Him by being lifted up. May I ask you however, what mean you by all men that have been drawn to Christ as a result of His being lifted up ?
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    Dead in Sin !

    Im not here to talk about me personally, but the doctrine of spiritual inability of men in general. Thats because by nature all men, me and you and anybody else in the whole wide world, are by nature dead in sin ! No spiritual ability, zero !