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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    That is how non believers are saved.....begotten of the Father, of His Spirit, not by the will of man. Translated out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light. Isn't that how you were saved? 1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    Agree with your post in the main...except one point...I don't see any room in God's word that some can be saved after death....? Bible says it is appointed unto man but once to die and then the judgment. It seems contradictory to say that God wants us to testify so that nobody has an...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    I get how some verses by themselves could be taken according to your $10 analogy. However, keep in mind that other verses affirm and clarify what is meant by those $10 verses. For example the ones that say "except you be born again you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven", and "no man comes to...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    Yes, I agree, witnessing is important.....bible says on the strength of two or three witnesses let everything be established. I believe hearing two or three witnesses prepares the way for the Lord....so we do need to witness......I had heard two witnesses before that Sunday the Lord drew me...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    Oh, are you thinking it is about how believers are to treat the Jews, or Jewish brethren? Maybe that is part of it too, there can be more than one layer to what is being said. Or how believers are to minister to needs and help one another in general...His brethren, Jew or Gentile. Though...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    I'm not very good at playing twenty questions, lol....think it would be better if you just tell me straight up what you are seeing there...? I think Jesus is referring to those among the nations who would believe and be part of His flock...and that this would likely include Hebrews as well who...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    He's looking for the fruit that proves our faith. Trees without fruit will be cut down and burned in the end....ie, goats and tares.
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    We must not look at the fallen human race with rose coloured glasses, but realistically, as God sees. We typically only know and see people superficially when they are on their best behaviour, or through propaganda PR reports, or the trappings of tourism, etc. But God knows and sees the truth...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    By the same token then He is certainly allowed to keep out or root out of His kingdom whoever He wants. Fortunately He doesnt' turn away sincere hearts that are seeking Him. And Jesus said He will root out of His kingdom the unbelieving and those who do wickedly in the end. Which He has every...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    I don't really like that term "exclusivity"....I don't know the official definition or whether we can apply it to the gospel.....but to me it has an association of a wrong attitude of snobbishness and superiority and that not all are invited, as if knowing Jesus is a club for the cream of the...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    God's arm is not too short to save. He will make sure that anyone foreknown by Him and appointed unto salvation will receive Christ even if He has to appear to them in a dream or vision without the agency of man...which I'm sure we've all heard testimony of, and there are examples in the bible...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    It didn't seem that he was understanding that parable correctly, so I just wanted to try and clarify what it means. Not everyone who names the name of Christ belong to Him and obey Him. Just that we are not to go on witchhunts and try to identify and root out those false brethren.....Jesus...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    I believe the issue is eternal life or no eternal life. All have been given the gift of temporal life for the span of our days on this earth, but not all will receive immortality...and nor does God owe that to anyone. Those who have not the Spirit of Christ in them through receiving Christ...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    The point is that there are sheep and goats together in the same flock, but the goats don't really belong there.....goats look a lot like sheep so it may be hard to tell them apart.........and thus will be separated out in the end. This is like the wheat and tares growing together in the same...
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    Test all things brother. Check that intuition against the word of God.....ask Him about it and prayerfully seek the truth in His word. Because there is a way that can SEEMETH so right to us but leads to death.
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    What is your notion of Christian exclusivity?

    No, I'm sorry but that parable is talking entirely about His flock....shepherds often used to keep their sheep and goats together and herd them together. It's much the same message as the wheat and tares parable....they will be separated out in the end, those in His field or flock who were...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Amen so right brother...that is worth repeating and hope nobody misses seeing it. Bible says the Jerusalem that is above is our mother.....and here we have no continuing city. Heb 11:13-16 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Yes, very true. Mystery Babylon and mystery of iniquity/lawlessness is about the house of God turned into a sinful and covetous house of merchandise......important to understand that it manifested first with Israel/Jerusalem which was judged/destroyed and house left desolate in 70 AD, and it...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Amen, that's a very true analogy. And notice in Jeremiah 5, one sign of false prophets/teachers and apostate Israel and church is that they overpass the deeds of the wicked. The church needs to stop being lax and complacent about leaven, but have a "spirit of excellence" that Daniel...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Mystery Babylon is identified and much spoken of in the scriptures.....here I'll share what the Lord has been gracious to show me thus far on this: Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and...