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Excellent and a great point. It was Paul who said we are not appointed to wrath. And you are also correct that the great tribulation is not the wrath of God, so well done on these points. So what did Jesus say we can escape from? We can escape from all these things which is the 7 seals. That is...

The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14 is the 6th seal. It is the same coming of Jesus as Matthew 24. When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the seals. Revelation is written like Gesesis 7. How many times does Noah load the animals and how many floods are there? Your error is...

LOL I believe we are to watch so we will know when He comes. The closer we get the more we see. I believe you need to read more carefully. Luke 21 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. The seed of the woman will see these...

No. A stubborn German. Oh, but I have. LOL. Church types. I'm more of a common sense type. We can use carcass and vultures. It changes nothing. Why would I do that? You remind me of an old friend of mine. Dreaming up problems in the mind that do not exist. Sound like you were studying to be...

What you are not seeing is that Jesus comes IN THE CLOUDS and does not come to the physical earth at the 6th seal. Here is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds. He comes BEFORE the wrath of God Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one...

Here. READ THIS AGAIN. It's self explanatory. Matthew 24 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall...

There is nothing to interpret. Just read what it says. Where the body is the eagles will gather or in the translation you are using, “Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.” That simply means where He is, those He comes for, will gather. It seems you are able to read...

The second coming is pre wrath. The triblation is over when Jesus comes at the 6th seal. Then the one-year wrath of God begins. Jesus comes for the Church before the seals are opened. Jesus comes for the second harvest of the fig tree, the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth...

The fact you don't agree with Davy much tells me you might know something. And then you had to go and say that the pre trib rapture FACT is obviously false. :cool: You are correct, the signs are about the end of the age. The end of the age occurs at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The...

Jerusalem was not under control of the Jews until 1967. The kings of the earth have been under the influence of the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet since 325 AD. Well not exactly nuff said. This is EXACTLY why the Jews are not the first harvest of the fig tree. They are the second...

I agee. Just read what it says. How is it that I was able to produce the scripture in Revelation 14 that prove the righteous are harvested first and the unrighteous remain on earth and are cast into the wrath of God? You were unable to address that FACT. No. He is talking about where the body...

Here is that so called symbolic city being judged and burned with fire. Revelation 18 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have...

The US is neither Babylon nor Mystery Babylon. The U.S. is the greatest country in the world....ever. We are the most prosperous and generous nation and have spread the Word of God all over the world. Will the U.S. be judged? Absolutely, as all nations will. Is the U.S Babylon? No. The...

No. It is the righteous that are taken. The righteous are caught up. The unrighteous remain. Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together is talking about where Jesus is the saints will be. When He returns for the alive that remain He will bring the dead in Christ with...

A free gift is salvation. However, salvation is the saving of your soul and likely has nothing to do with whether or not you are raptured. There are some believers, or so it seems to me, that go through the time of temptation. They are not watching and ready as we are instructed. They do not...

No doubt we are only saved by the blood of Christ, but consider this. Revelation 3 7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth...

The only problem is if He believes the lying wonders. He is going to see so much alien evidence, news stories, fake reports, holograms and actual flying craft built by man, that he very likely will believe what his eyes see. It can fool even the elect, if that is possible. And to sum it up, if...

There are wise virgins that are watching and ready for the coming of the Lord and there are foolish virgins that can't see because they have no lamp oil. You better get some lamp oil so you can see.

No man knows the day nor the hour. This is exactly why we are to watch because we don't know the day nor the hour. However, those that don't watch will NOT know the hour that the Lord will come. Rev 3 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If...

Total failure Not sure why you would post this as this is when Jesus comes with all His saints with the armies of heaven. The marriage supper happens in heaven as the marriage is in heaven. This proves you wrong, simple as that. Revelation 19 And after these things I heard a great voice of...