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What is there to refute? If Lazarus was risen with a permanent incorruptible physical body, why is he not still physically alive? Perhaps you lack understanding of what a permanent incorruptible body is? The FACT that he long ago physically died proves you're somewhat confused. You do say the...

There is not one dot or tittle to be found in Scripture to prove these OT faithful saints were physically resurrected from the graves. But we have evidence to prove these saints of Old did indeed ascend to heaven as a living spiritual body of believers. The holy city they went to and appeared...

Yes He (first resurrection) was! In fact Scripture speaks of Christ as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Not only was Christ the first resurrection prior to the cross, but He was ordained to be the sacrificial Lamb (first resurrection) in heaven before creation. John 17:24...

This is actually one statement from you that I do fully agree with. I believe this is depicting Old Covenant faithful saints, who physically died waiting for the promised Messiah who would come to redeem them from death. They could not have part in Christ, the "first resurrection" before...

No Timothy, the reward for those who have part in the resurrection of Christ, who is the "first resurrection", is NOW eternal spiritual life through the Spirit of Christ in us and shall be immortal & incorruptible physical life in the age that is coming when the spiritual Kingdom of God in...

They had no physical body because their body died and returned to dust when their heads were cut off! How many times must it be shown that NONE will be physically resurrected according to Scripture until the hour coming when the last trumpet sounds on the last day of this age when time given...

No Tim, John didn't SEE them at all. He was given to understand not to physically see that martyred saints were alive in heaven after physical death because in life they LIVED and REIGNED with Christ in time, symbolized a thousand years. You show you agree when you said "He viewed them as part...

The doctrine that does NOT understand Rev 20 comes from Premillennialism! In your effort to find TWO physical resurrections in the words of John, separated by ONE thousand years, you completely ignore what the text actually says. You believe the martyred souls are resurrected to physical life...

It is because these martyred saints had been spiritually raised from death to life through the resurrection life of Christ (the first resurrection) that they were able to be faithful unto death. Why would these martyred living souls need to be spiritually raised to life again since death had no...

Randy, But to be born again is indeed being raised from the dead. Because we who were dead, spiritually speaking, have been raised from spiritual death to spiritual life. That may be what you're saying, and if so, yes we agree. To be precise what I argue is that when we are born again, we do...

I agree being born again is not OUR physical resurrection. I know of no Amillennialists that would argue it is. You don't have to buy into anything Randy. To be born again is to be made alive IN CHRIST! It is through His resurrection (first resurrection) that we MUST partake of during our...

How can vs 4 be speaking of their physical resurrection since, as you say, they were born again Christians during their lives and martyred for their faith? Therefore it is during their lifetimes they "lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years". Because it is during our lifetime we must be...

Randy how can you reconcile this with what Christ tells us here: John 5:25 (KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. Who are "the dead" who can NOW hear Christ and live? Wouldn't...

You're assuming that John physically SEES them alive again to reign with Christ during a literal ONE thousand years. But the Greek word translated "saw" εἴδω does not pertain to physically seeing them, but rather John is given to understand, or know, be aware of, behold that death did not take...

Ruling with a rod of iron is peaceful and gentle, and this is what we find in this age of TIME symbolized a thousand years within the confines of faithful saints. It's not future, but present reality for those who are in Christ, faithful saints.

Hello Randy, good to be back. Two resurrections does indeed pose a problem for Premills since you believe both resurrections are physical. But the Bible is clear there shall be but ONE physical resurrection for ALL the dead in an hour that is coming when the last trumpet sounds. Scripture...

As I've said I wasn't Amil first as you apparently think you were. I already knew and understood the doctrine of Premillennialism. I really never questioned what I HAD BEEN TAUGHT until I searched and studied the Word of God for myself. That's how I discovered the many contradictions and...

Can you be a little more specific? Which parts of the Bible do you believe I don't believe?

How do you reconcile the verses that clearly speak of this earth and everything on it shall be burned up with the FACT the earth shall be forever? Premil doesn't reconcile this! The only way this can be reconciled is in understanding the earth that shall be everlasting is not this first earth...

Putting aside the reason's I believe Satan was bound by the cross and resurrection, could you point to pertinent verses of Scripture that show us this in-between age you believe shall come? I see only two ages in Scripture for this earth, the age from creation to the first advent of Christ, and...