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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Jeremiah is talking about them returning to their land after seventy years of captivity. This prophesy was fulfilled when Jerusalem was restored and the second Temple that had been destroyed was rebuilt.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    The times of restitution began with Christ coming to earth a man, giving His life for sin, and resurrecting from the dead. As the Gospel is proclaimed unto all the nations of the world, the times of restitution/restoration of all things is commencing. Until the times of restoration is...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Where in this passage does it say or even imply that David will serve as king on this earth?
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, the rest of the story is that Christ will return again to establish His Kingdom on the new earth. The times of restitution began when Christ came to earth a man. The times of restitution of all things shall be complete when the seventh angel begins to sound that time for this earth shall...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Did you not read the words of Daniel and the Acts I referenced for you? Christ is NOW, since He ascended to heaven seated on His throne in heaven. There is NOT a single verse found in Scripture telling us Christ or David will sit on an earthly throne ruling and reigning over His people. Now...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    It's not the written words that is unbelieved! It is your understanding of these words written that is not believed.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    So too Israel of God is a literally all people of faith! They are now literally, in this age of time, spiritually alive in the Kingdom of God, while clothed in physical bodies. The Pharisees also looked for a literal, physical Kingdom they thought would come. So when Christ came in a...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Marks, can you provide the verses that speak of David specifically ruling over Israel that now is a physical nation? There are several verses pointing to the seed of David, which is Christ ruling over His people. Below for example. When you speak of David ruling over an ethnic people, called...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    God will preserve Israel! Not nationally, but spiritually. I've already shown how you have mistaken Israel of God with the nation or ethnic Israel according to race. God NEVER promised to preserve ethnic Jews, called Israel forever. The promises to them nationally were always dependent upon...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I'm not sure what you mean? If by "life giving spirit" you mean the Holy Spirit, I would say no, I don't believe so. The way I've come to understand the creation of man is that man was created with both an outward physical body, and the breath of life, which is the natural spirit in every man...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    What Isaiah says shall come to pass because Christ has raised from the dead. All who physically die IN CHRIST shall awake from physical death also, but that will not be until the last trumpet sounds and the bodies of the physically dead are resurrected either to immortal & incorruptible life or...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Paul did NOT say our natural body will be raised a spiritual body! That makes no sense! We are flesh and bones with a spirit that gives our body life, or we are a living spiritual soul, that has no substance, is as a ghost or the air. The physical body is made to inhabit the earth or natural...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I said exactly to your posting of vs 44, "it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body." Paul makes no mention of a bodily resurrection when our body physically dies and is sown in its natural, physical, corrupt, mortal self. When our body is sown after natural physical death, it...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    You are making an assumption that the ethnic people called Israel will be preserved by God forever. But you have failed to prove what you assume because you don't understand Israel preserved by God is NOT an ethnic people comprised of Jews, but is a spiritual people comprised of both Jews of...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Exactly! How can you read the words of Paul and lack understanding between that which is physical, of the earth, natural man, and that which is spiritual, of heaven/celestial, like the angels of God in heaven, without a body? To be a spiritual body in heaven simply means that death of the body...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    When God created mankind from the dust of the earth and breathed into them the breath of life (spirit) was not man created physical? Yes, our bodies shall be changed, they shall be as in the beginning, physical bodies that shall never again die, never be sick, never grow old, cannot be enticed...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    How does Paul, and further how would you define a physical body? Is it not the natural body that comes from the dust of the earth, and is like the first Adam, earthy and not heavenly? Why does Paul say that just as we bear the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    What you said is "Our natural bodies die and when Jesus returns He will raise them as spiritual bodies." Let me rephrase the question. What do you mean when you say our natural bodies will be raised as spiritual bodies? Mankind consists of spirit, which is the breath of life we receive from...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    The dead of vs 19 above are the dead found here: Ephesians 2:1 (KJV) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Ephesians 2:5-6 (KJV) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    I hope and pray you are doing well David, and that PT will help you to fully recover!