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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I'm all for exposing how Preterism misrepresents Scripture. I'm not a fan! If we want to be taken seriously we can't act as though the words Christ spoke to first century AD disciples from the Mt of Olives basically has none or little application for them. The Olivet Discourse must be...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Paul, Preterists, if I'm not mistaken, view Christ' coming/nearness/presence in AD 70. I do NOT! I believe the SIGN of Christ' coming/nearness/presence came to His saints after Christ ascended to heaven and sent His Spirit to be in man. One can understand and believe the historical evidence...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    It does refer to the nearness of Christ coming to us because the sign of His nearness/coming is through His Spirit, not His physical presence.
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Parousia is interpreted as Christ being near or coming in both His first coming and His coming again. In both His coming is near/present first through His Spirit in us, and then physically when He comes again. Strong's Greek Dictionary 3952. παρουσία parousia (parousía) Search for G3952 in...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I truly enjoy having these discussions, and I'm not opposed to engaging in rowdy, but civil debates. What I find troubling is when the discussion devolves into name calling and false accusations, (which we are ALL guilty of) especially from those who are mostly familiar with the Biblical...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    You can see for yourselves the Greek word "erchomai" is not synonymous with "Parousia". Too many verses to list them all, but here are a few from Matthew that prove "erchomai" means to be present and not the same as Christ' nearness in coming. Mt 26:36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    There's a difference between the nearness of Christ' coming, and Him being present and appearing. Vs 27 "parousia" is the same as vs 4 when the disciples asked what SIGN there would be to prove His nearness/coming. This verse says Christ is coming and it shall be as lightening coming out of...
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    You imply that I have added to and/or taken away from the Word of God. I understand how easily one might fall into this error. The Word of God tells us to use wisdom that comes from Him to discern what is written. Faithful saints have always been given and even encouraged to explain what and...
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    I was only wanting clarity David. If the conclusions I've drawn do not align with the Word of God, I certainly want to know how they do not align with the Word of God. I explained in my own words truths I have gleaned from the Bible. I didn't feel you were attacking me.
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    Repeating what I've said doesn't show me how what I've said is contrary to the Word of God. You've only stated your opinion of what you believe to be contrary without explaining how. Peace to you as well.
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    Please be a little bit more specific. What declaration have I made that is contrary to the Word of God?
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    Meaning of This Generation Will Not Pass Away Until All These Things Take Place

    I understand. But don't forget that Satan himself comes with lying signs and wonders to lead many astray. It isn't only the Jewish nation deceived by Satan. 2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 (KJV) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and...
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    It seems to me that when we read this letter from Paul, we should be moved by the great effort he takes to prove the superiority of the gift of LOVE above all else. Because he says that when we have love it will not fail us. Of course, the greatest love of all is to love the Lord with all our...
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    Tongues ( 'sign' gifts ) did/did not cease?

    Yeah, I like to call this "new tongues" Christianeze! IOW we who believe are able to speak and now proclaim that which is new THE GOSPEL through the power of the Holy Spirit in us.
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I find these forums necessarily become repeating over again and again things we thought we had already made clear. When this becomes necessary for me, I try to re-state my replies with more Biblical proof-text or say the same thing just slightly changing how to explain what I meant. This has...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Here is an example of "the end" that shall come that is not the end of the world, but the end of TIME for proclaiming the Gospel to the world for a witness unto all nations. Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations...
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    Meaning of This Generation Will Not Pass Away Until All These Things Take Place

    Today, which is every generation of people who are of the same evil as those alive in the days of Christ, are included with "this generation" that shall remain upon the earth until all things written have been fulfilled. Those evil leaders alive during the time of Christ are written to be an...
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    Meaning of This Generation Will Not Pass Away Until All These Things Take Place

    I wouldn't discount this definition for "this generation." But neither would I necessarily limit "this generation" to His people, meaning the Jewish people continuing to be living on the earth until all things have been fulfilled. Another way of understanding "this generation" is not to limit...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    It's not a question of whether it would be wrong or right. It is simply that the Greek word "telos" is always simply "the end" of whatever is in view in the Bible. Where "the end of the world" is always defined from the Greek word "syntéleia". I don't believe "telos" ever refers to the "end...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I agree the prophesy of Old is not about the second coming of Christ. It is prophesy that shall come to pass during His first coming. The prophets of Old write this is "the Day of the Lord". The Day of the Lord has both a beginning and an end that came with the first Advent of Christ and will...