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The key being, when was Messiah anointed. There's nothing in the prophecy that hints at. Messiahs ministry, it just says, "until Messiah the Prince". You are correct, the command from Artexerxes was in 457AD, and remembering that there is no year 0, the count of 483 years takes us to 27ad...

Daniel 9:24

Heading in the right direction. Yet it never ceases to shame me as it continues to uncover the depths of depravity the human heart is capable of. The measure is indeed the law, and Jesus said the law is an expression of love. So perhaps we need to take careful note of the following, if we...

"Abide in Me and I in you... without Me ye can do nothing... but in Christ ye can do all things." A favourite lie of the devil is "you cannot overcome sin.". That is repeated ad nauseum on these forums from people who do not have faith.

It's prophecy. If we cannot understand prophecy from history, and make the appropriate harmonising comparisons, then what do you have to prove prophecy is reliable? You are correct that there is nothing in the text that specifically denotes a particularly nasty persecution, yet that time...

Our relationship with Jesus may not be affected by our behaviour, but it is certainly affected by our faith. If we believe or behaviour ism forgivable, then our faith or belief is askew. If we sin, and don't confess, believing we won't be forgiven, or that God had ceased t to love us, then...

Mmm. And 7 spirits of God?

Well, I suppose if you are so adamant I am wrong, then you will have greater evidence than I that there were ten literal days that the Smyna Church suffered a particularly nasty persecution right? And of course you will have it ready to publish that all may see your evidence?

Finally lol. At least on that.

What I took exception to was your presumption by saying...

It is prophetic time. Based on a day for a year principle, “After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise. ” Numbers 14:34 KJV...

I'm sorry that I answered the question so well it put an end to all discussion.

What are you saying here? That Jesus changed His mind? That at one time He wasn't going to abolish it, but did so anyway by fulfilling it? Of so, please explain how fulfilling is a definition of abolishing. While you are at it, maybe explain why Jesus would abolish the sabbath just a short time...

What you said was true except for the part where you claimed I was saying something different.

That is assumption based on wrong premises. Angels are spirits, yet they are not immortal, because scripture says the devil will be destroyed. So are human sinners. And you continue to conflate soul and spirit despite being referred to Genesis 2:7 which says unequivocally that man became a...

If you knew the scriptures, you would know that was the opposite to what I am saying. I said those who were Christians in name only, don't know Christ. That is not a license to sin. Yet they do. And they end up weeping and gnashing teeth... until they die the second death. 21"Not everyone...

I think there are 2 types of Christians. Only 2. Jesus spoke of only two. One type of Christian He didn't know. They were Christians in name only. The other type of Christian knew both He and the Father. To them was given eternal life. You see, your definitions above are based solely on...

I think that only God is eternal because He is God. We aren't, either God or eternal. Except eternal life is given as a gift. Not because of what we are. But because of Who Jesus is, and what He had accomplished on our behalf.

That all sounds well and good, all couched in spiritual terms and even with Bible references. But it's all deception, and you have to deny clear bible truth in order to sustain it. Only God is immortal. We receive immortality as a gift. That gift comes to us at the second coming. And only...

The gospel is really very simple. Without going into the how at this point, the result is... there is therefore now no condemnation for them that are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ROMANS 8:1 “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world...