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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Revelation 14:1, 3-5 describes: “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads ... And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Cut the jibes out, please. It is getting old. We are supposed to be having an adult conversation. 1. What Scripture, if any, do you consider definitely corroborates the Premillennial interpretation of Revelation 20 that there are two distinct physical resurrection days (the first for the...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I already did that in #1921, and he already avoided the evidence that refutes Pretrib. That is his (and your) MO. I already responded to you the same and you avoided: MORE PROOF OF THE PRETRIB RAPTURE
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    More avoidance. That is all you have.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    We all believe in a great trib. What you cannot do is show us is a rapture passage that teachers that this occurs after our gathering to Jesus. You have nothing. Where in the Bible does it teach "There is a great tribulation that the Church will escape"? You confuse the tribulation of God's...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The day each were rescued total destruction came. Hello! You are fighting with the text. They are both likened onto Christ's one-and-only return. Pretribbers are seeing double all the time. Their vision is impaired through false teaching.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    LOL. You know what we know: there is no trib period in 1 Thess 4. It is a Pretrib invention. You divert to Luke 21, that also doesn't have a trib period following. You are unable to quote any trib detail in these. That is because it does not exist. You force your false teaching into the text...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You cannot seem to string a coherent sentence together. This is all gibberish. Do you not realize that Scripture gives varying detail on many events to give us a good overall panoramic view? This does not negate the fact that the detail is describing the same climatic event.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Jesus said in Luke 17:26-30, “as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    I am seeing a pattern here: you cannot address direct questions. You skipped around various questions because they expose your hyper-literal approach.
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Where in Genesis does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam to live" for "1,000 LITERAL Years"? Where in Daniel does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam to live" for "1,000 LITERAL Years"? Where in Revelation does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam...
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    The difference between The Resurrection and the first resurrection.

    Do you believe Satan and his minions are physical beings? Is the dragon in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical dragon? Is the serpent in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical serpent? Do you believe Satan literally has 7 heads and 7 necks? Is the key mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal door...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Nowhere else in Scripture does it teach that there will be a literal 1,000 years after the second coming that is sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted and war-ravaged. Neither the Old Testament prophets, Christ, Paul, Peter, Jude nor any other New Testament writer describes one. The same...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Let us take the phrase “a thousand years.” There is a big difference between “a thousand years” (which Scriptures states) and "one thousand years" (as you keep stating). The number 'one' is not included in the narrative, you must insert it in. Rather it is the more general thousand. The figure...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Where in Scripture does it teach that "God had originally intended for Adam to live" for "1,000 LITERAL Years"? The beast reigns with 10 kings for 1 hour in Revelation. Is that a literal 60 minutes?
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    This shows the absurdity of your doctrine. It is nonsensical. You cannot even discern between figurative and literal language. That is obviously why you are a Premil. Most objective Bible students would agree that these are figurative terms. The term "a thousand" is used in most languages in a...
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    LOL. More avoidance. Welcome to Pretrib. This is what they do. They make it up as they go. Your doctrines falls at the first hurdle.
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    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Do you accept that the figure “a thousand” (including a thousand years) and ten thousand are repeatedly used in Scripture to denote a vast indeterminate amount or period of time? Moses employs `a thousand' in Deuteronomy 7:9 saying, "Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful...