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No, not the rebirth. That is the next change. The first change for mankind before verse 17 came was God's giving of the Ten Commandments to Moses. Man went from no law to being under the Ten Commandments. You need to go back further. Romans 7:5-13 5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful...

Sin dwelt in us since Adam sinned, and we inherited the serpents nature. Jesus changed that curse. Romans 7:17 is BEFORE Jesus; it was when all we had was the Law. Jesus took sin away. 1 John 3:5. I also answered your question. You asked where did sin go? I said - the cross. And I supplied...

Where did it go? To the cross along with the nature from Adam's sin that produced it. Romans 6:6-7 and Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the...

the sin nature. That is the old man. Romans 6:6-7

Actually, recognizing this fact is the first step in becoming born again in my experience. At least, that's what happened to me 45 years ago. I had to tell God I was giving up trying to be good in my own power; that Jesus was stronger than I was and had to intervene and take away the object of...

This is why justification by faith only is misleading. Someone may have faith IN Christ, but do not have the faith OF Christ from having Christ inside of them with His divine power, Romans 8:9, 2 Peter 1:2-4, instead still outside drawing them with knowledge.

He is not subject to them. We were subject to them. They were about God, so how could He be subject to Himself?

Hebrews 9: 16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19 For when...

Pray and ask Jesus to take away your sin nature and to fill you with His Holy Spirit.

I don't know where you are getting this jargon from. Maybe that is why I'm confused. Romans 6:6-7 talks about the old man (our sin nature) being crucified - making our nature dead to sin. The outer man is just a shell that has no need to be reborn until the resurrection at the second coming. It...

The Ten Commandments could not make anyone righteous, because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Even if they keep the letter of the law, the 10th commandment is easily broken (coveting), because that is in our mind, and they still had their sin nature, called "the old man."...

Romans 8: There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me (Paul) free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in...

Yes. That is what Paul is saying. That is why when you walk in the Spirit, you are not under the old law. The old law was only for sinners. Galatians 3:19a 19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed (Jesus) should come to whom the promise was made

5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness...

It is the inner old man that is crucified with Christ and raised with Christ. The outer shell does not change, just our inner nature. And Jesus doesn't cover us, we abide in Him, and He in us.

AGAINo_O, Romans 7:16-20 is an unborn again person UNDER THE LAW before the indwelling of the Spirit of Christ - the culmination in chapter 8!!! So, of course, sin still dwells in them! Oy vey, marks!

"body of sin" is not our body, but the "whole" of sin. Like an author's body of works. It is everything he wrote. Not letting sin reign in your mortal body is inside your nature that has been reborn. IOW don't quench the Spirit. Your nature is inside your body, and that is what needs to be...

I am too, but I don't stop at Abraham's justification of faith. There is so much more in that 8 chapter teaching. Abraham never received the Promise that started with him.

Justification by faith as taught in the Reformation is justification of faith IN Christ. But it misses the mark when you search no further. The Holy Spirit in us produces justification by the faith OF Christ in you. That is when you are truly justified and sanctified and can then go forth into...

Paul is teaching about before the law, the law, grace, and the culmination - the Spirit. It is an 8 chapter teaching. Pulling out what happened before the law, and most importantly, Christ, is tunnel vision speaking. That is what Calvinism is all about, and why Jesus called that teaching, dead...