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At the 6th seal most of the those that are harvested from the earth will be of the twelve tribes. We see the 144,000 first fruits of this harvest. The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel. The Church is already in heaven before the final week. The Church will be raptured in the...

As I have said before, the 1st four seals are the beginning of sorrows in Matthew 24. The fifth seal is the great tribulation, shown in Matthew 24 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him...

The verses you quote are the great tribulation. That occurs at the 5th seal. Then there is the harvest that occurs with the coming Jesus at the 6th seal. No one is killed. The believers who are mostly of the 12 tribes are gathered from the earth and the unbelievers are cast into the wrath of...

Wow. Talk about taking things out of context. How is it that you do not understand that the Lord will return soon?

Sorry David. The rapture that you see in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. It is also found here. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another...

So where in Revelation can we find the rapture?

That's not true. The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus of Matthew 24. Jesus sends His angels and remains in the clouds. He does not come to the earth but returns to heaven for the marriage supper.

There will be a harvest of the Church before the seals are opened. The final week cannot happen until the eyes of the Jews are opened. That cannot happen until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye...

I noticed something. I said the 144,000 are first fruits OF THE SECOND HARVEST. That means you go to the field and gather first fruits from the field. When the first fruits are acceptable there is a coming harvest. This is the harvest that will happen after those 144,000 are raptured to heaven...

The 6th seal is not the second advent where Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth at the 6th seal. You will never understand Revelation until you get past this. You need to read the events that are...

There is the barley harvest, the wheat harvest and the fruit harvest. Each harvest matches a feast of God. Matt 13 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of...

You have not taken it point by point. Let's take it point by point. Revelation 14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. The Lamb is Jesus. Jesus is found on the earth on Mount...

Brother, it's like looking at that mechanics manual. If you want to know engines, you need to go where it's talking about engines. If you want to know about how to repair a transmission you need to go to where it teaches about transmissions. Gas mileage? The same thing. So it's not going to tell...

Yes. No. It is not evidence for a pretrib rapture as that has already occurred before the seals are opened. The seals are the final. Also, when Jesus comes for His Church, I don't believe He will touch the earth. He will remain in the clouds. That 144,000 is the first fruits of the second...

Laugh all you want. You are the one without understanding. Baloney. How can they refute the truth. Post your scriptures and show how they refute the truth. I already know they don't, because they can't. Again you are talking without knowledge and understanding. Here is Jesus shown coming to...

Those 24 elders have crowns. THAT CANNOT HAPPEN UNTIL JESUS COMES. So Jesus has come before the seals are opened. The FACT that you are unable to understand this, or unwilling to admit this does not change the truth.

Thankyou WPM. I appreciate your answer and explanation. Please see my comments below. 5 months – the wicked tormented (Rev 9:5-10). These 5 months occur during the one-year wrath of God. 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour – four angels prepared to pour out the 6th trumpet judgment (Rev 9:15)...

Oh no. That is not what I said. The 24 elders with crowns shows that Jesus has returned. Here is the Church in heaven. Rev 5 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of...

How will the blind without understanding, understand that the Master will come when they think not. They are always looking for a road map with undeniable proof of when He will come, when the Lord tells you one will not be provided as He will come when you think not. Matthew 24 44 Therefore be...

How will the blind without understanding, understand that the Master will come when they think not. They are always looking for a road map with undeniable proof of when He will come, when the Lord tells you one will not be provided as He will come when you think not. Matthew 24 44 Therefore be...