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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Goodness, are you thinking that is a literal horse? He speaks to us in parables. We are warned to fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell/Hades. Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at...
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    You are ignoring and not addressing the point of my post and the scriptures I brought. What does it mean to perish like the beasts? It means no eternal life, like animals aren't given eternal life. Only for those who are granted eternal life - that is how our bodies are redeemed (of those...
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    I believe we badly need to honour the Lord as God. That is where we need to start. Scripture says this: Psa 49:6-15 They that trust in their wealth, and boast themselves in the multitude of their riches; None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him...
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    We shouldn't try to think and reason these things like a man when God's ways and thoughts are higher than man's. Man's thoughts and reasonings are man-centred and puts man at the pinnacle and centre of everything where only God should be. It's why man essentially accuses God of being...
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    N No, because God always keeps for Himself a remnant. In the meantime wolves and error is all allowed by God.....we are tested by such things and when we are younger in the Lord are prone to being blown around by every wind of doctrine.....but we need to grow out of depending on 'mother...
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    First I would think we need to get an idea from the word of God what HE means by restoration. Seems to have a lot to do with what remains after the shaking and who and what God roots out of His kingdom.
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    Thanks brother, and blessings to you.
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Those writings just tell me there is nothing new under the sun. As far as paying the last penny on the debt owing.....what are the wages of sin?
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    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Amen. Paul warned that after he departed wolves (hungry, ambitious) would take over the church, so anything written after the apostles needs to be gone over with a fine toothed comb to sort out the wheat from the chaff. In light of what Paul said, I consider that only the apostles were the...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Blood-washed saints can still have faults. "Confess your faults one to another." "We offend in many ways all." Something humbling in that. But no believer should be going around committing adultery, robbing banks, or killing people, etc.
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    I didn't expect you I wasn't expecting you to understand but maybe others who might read here will know what I'm trying to convey, even if expressed imperfectly.
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    I didn't want to come back here, but think this needs to be said, can't get it off my mind. It is the flesh that is always trying to add to God's word and thus weigh it down instead of holding it in spirit. We shouldn't add anything to the word of God, apart from His Spirit....God doesn't need...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    We have been and are being sanctified by the Blood and by the presence of Christ's spirit taking up residence in these earthen (dirty and weak) vessels of ours. But the bible warns that if we keep on wilfully sinning after coming to knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for...
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    Christ's sinless Head with a sinful body?

    Amen. Spiritual reality trumps the facts on the ground. Therefore it is by faith not necessarily by sight. We are to pray "Thy will be done on earth AS IT IS IN HEAVEN". Kind of like how the devil was defeated at the cross, yet we still see him up to no good and coming to steal, kill and...
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    This is a conversation only "qualified clergy" would be interested in. Don't think I have anything more to say here.
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    That's not the same thing as coming together for the purpose of worshiping and seeking the Lord, to minister to Him and to be ministered to by Him, and minister one to another. Jesus is always with us and of course we can come together for the purpose of dealing with practical business and pray...
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    I was trying to address the apparent ecclesiasticalness here. (if that's a word)
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    Jesus is our Head. If He instructs or leads us to do or say something at any time, we should do it. But I don't believe we should try to turn an instruction for one specific occasion and circumstance into a formula or ritual and apply it in every circumstance all the time. There is no "life"...
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    Pray, bless, greet. Yes, sure. Christians do those things often without giving it a thought. I don't know why this needs a thread, unless you are trying to establish or justify a ritual. We're not supposed to let the left hand know what the right hand is doing.
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    You're probably tired of hearing from me by now, but I think it's just a matter of purpose. Gathering and meeting for the purpose of meeting with God, as opposed to a secular or practical kind of purpose. Like how the angels assembled and presented themselves before God. We are to distinguish...