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@Davy I'm sorry. I want to ask for your forgiveness for getting frustrated at your responses to me and putting you on ignore. I've obviously taken you off of ignore now. Let's just both remember we are Christians and curb our conduct in our words.

I see you are like a con artist picking and choosing to deceive. So let's read what you didn't believe. You only agree with 12 and 13, There is so much more you missed. Read 1-23 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Shall we sin...

Not when I belonged to the SDA Church until I was 23. And not when I had joined another legalistic denomination for a year. And not even when I first learned about the baptism of the Holy Spirit and believed that Cessationism was dead wrong, and that the gifts are alive and well today. But...

You're right. It is possible, but impossible by yourself. That is what they are experiencing when they believe their experience over the Word of God. We must be born again of the Holy Spirit and be partaking of the divine nature of Jesus. 2 Peter 1:2-4. Then we can stop sinning because He is in...

I have found that these false teachings are so enticing and easy to fulfill, that those who believe them just have itching ears. They love darkness and have never turned to the light. Satan doesn't care if you believe in Jesus, just as long as you keep willfully and knowingly sinning. Then he...

You can make all the vile statements about me you like. It doesn't bother me. I care about you, and hope that the scriptures I provide against your false beliefs can change your mind and finally open your spiritual eyes to the truth. Don't you know that your beliefs are a mockery to the holiness...

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Others can judge between us. People read #794 and #795.

I gave you scriptures that completely undermined your post. Refer to #794 and #795. Talk about delusions. The Word of God is truth. Believe it, not your carnal and unscriptural twisted beliefs. Even after showing the scriptures that gave you the truth, you didn't respond, let alone repent, and...

Thanks, I saved it into a private document and printed it. I'll read it in bed tonight.

Obviously you didn't understand a thing I said.

Verse 5 is a general statement to mankind. You obviously read the verses I gave Enoch, but you don't agree with them? What I believe is we do not go in and out of the Spirit, but either are slaves to sin, or slaves to righteousness. Romans 6:15-16. There are many who fight this because they...

I'm sorry I frustrated you, but I really thought I answered your question. Clearly there is more to discuss. As far as "perfection" there are some on here, and doctrines in the church that started shortly after the death of the last apostle, it seems (thanks again for the quotes), that...

Wow, thanks for these quotes. I see false doctrine started sooner than I thought! Yes, we need to be constantly growing. What 1 Corinthians 13:9-12 is talking about is even with the Bible and the Apostles, we will still only know God partially, not as He knows us. But go to the end of the...

Jesus was speaking to people that were still under the Old Covenant, because Jesus was still alive, had not yet been crucified and resurrected, and the Day of Pentecost when His Spirit fell on the devout Jews had not yet happened. Davy, my dear friend, I'm sorry to tell you this and please...

Okay, now I'm interested. What did they teach that you don't agree with? Thanks. The Mosaic Law of the LETTER, the Old Covenant Ten Commandments, which was holy, but superficial, and cannot make us righteous, because of the indwelling carnal nature we still had. The New Covenant of the SPIRIT...

What? Why don't you quote the real authority on the subject. The Bible. What makes them think that Jesus came to save just Gentiles. He came to His own. Israel. The Church started with only Jews. Gentiles weren't added until Cornelius in Acts of the Apostles chapter 10. And the Great...

Yes, that just means we went from immortal to mortal. When this body actually dies, it must wait for the resurrection. No one said anything about being born spiritually twice. But going from dead in sin, to alive in the Spirit. That's once.

Well that's just silly. The Church was FOR Israel. They were only partially blinded until the last of the Gentiles foreknown to come into the Church is fulfilled. Then that blindness shall fall off the eyes and minds of Israel, and all Israel alive at that time shall be saved. It ends for...

I cannot determine which Ironside is siding with. That the church is separate from God's relationship with Israel. Or that there is one Church and God's promises to Israel include them in the Church.