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Our arguments are based on historical FACT! Supporting historical truth does not mean supporting Preterist doctrine. Full Preterist don't teach the cross ended the Old Covenant and ushered in the new as I and Covenantee do. They believe AD 70 was when the Old Covenant ended, which denies the...

Then perhaps you can stop saying or implying that I argue in the same way full preterists do. I believe Covenantee is also in agreement with reply #285.

See reply #285

I believe most often when we read "the end" is speaks of our physical life in this age. The end of physical life is the end of our time on this earth, but it is not the end of all time.

I believe "the end" refers to whatever is in view according to context Paul. Something came to "the end" in the first century after the Gospel of the Kingdom had been preached unto all the world then known. That was not "the end of the world" that shall come when the Gospel shall be a witness...

I'm not arguing "the end" that came in AD 70 is the same end that came with Christ. The ceremonial and sacrificial Laws according to the Covenant were no longer beneficial after the cross. Those continuing in keeping these Old laws bring greater condemnation to themselves. This time between...

Thank you Paul, I appreciate your sincerity, and have always enjoyed contributing in discussions with you. If you have issues with a brother in Christ, you should address him personally.

Paul even goes on to write though they had been cut off through unbelief, they could be grafted in again IF they did not remain in unbelief! Since when they believe they are grafted back into the same good olive tree (kingdom of God) with Gentiles of faith, together Jews of faith with Gentiles...

Paul I have consistently stated the end of the Old Covenant and beginning of the New Covenant came with the cross and resurrection.

You were directing false charges to me! Therefore I replied to you directly. Covenantee has not directed false charges against me, only you have. It isn't for me to speak out for you or him, you can and do speak out for yourself.

You seem to be having a control issue Paul! That is very sad! We have more agreement on doctrine than disagreement, but when those who typically agree arrive at an understanding that you don't approve of, you resort to name calling and slandering. My heart goes out to you in this struggle...

Exactly! I never understood why a discussion given to the first century disciples could be interpreted in a way that has NO application for them? The Bible is logical. Trying to force illogic into it makes no sense at all.

I wouldn't say the words are synonymous even though they both are "the end". But one is very specifically "the end of the world", and the other always "the end" of whatever is being referenced. For instance vs. 14 says after the Gospel of the Kingdom is preached in all the world, then "the...

Where we read only "the end" it is NOT translated from the Greek word syntéleia. For example consider vs 14 where "the end" has been translated from the Greek word télos. Matthew 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and...

This is not true. I don't know what translation you use, but my KJB writes "the end of the world" each time translating from the Greek word syntéleia. Below are a few Matthew 13:39 (KJV) The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the...

It's literally things that come upon the spiritual Kingdom of God as the Gospel is preached unto all the world. Don't forget Christ is speaking to His disciples about things in this age that will affect them, and in fact many to be martyred for their faith. Many professing Christians among...

I believe it prudent that I bow out of this discussion with you Paul.

This is the type of replies that serve no help whatsoever. You are well aware that I have no doubt the cross & resurrection finished the Old Covenant completely! To say I don't believe that shows your frustration. It has been my experience that frustration usually comes into these forum...

It simply is not possible to deny historical truth Paul. We know the New Covenant in Christ came and the Old Covenant ended by His cross and resurrection. But until the utter destruction there was still a temptation, and these first disciples could be deceived into returning to that which...

It appears you are confirming what I've argued all along. The disciples needed the SIGN which was given them first when Christ breathed on them after His resurrection, and then the SIGN of the Holy Spirit in them confirmed at Pentecost when they received power from on high. That's why they...