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  1. The Light

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The coming of Jesus at the 6th seal cannot be the coming of Jesus at the end of the trumpets. There are many reasons that cannot be the case. Here's one 1 Thes 5 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, The trumpets are the wrath of God...
  2. The Light

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So far, this agrees with scripture. Jesus is on mount Sion with the 144,000. There is no information that tells us that the 144,000 are learning the Gospel message. In fact we can tell that is not the case because we can see in Revelation 7 that they are sealed. That means that they have...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is really an excellent answer. However, I will point again to a lack of understanding. This coming of Jesus does not occur at the end of the trumpets. This coming of Jesus occurs at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    So you believe that the seventh trumpet blown by an angel is the same thing as the trump of God or voice of God? Revelation 1 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Hi Jeff. Reading over Enoch111's event countdown it seems pretty accurate overall. He is missing a rapture, but we appear to be reading the same book.
  6. The Light

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    What would the reason and purpose be? Can you clarify as I am unaware of this.
  7. The Light

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Hi Marty, Do you not understand that the fig tree has two harvests? Also do you mean at the 7th trump or the 6th seal?
  8. The Light

    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Hi Marty, Can you clarify which rapture you are referring to. Are you talking about the rapture that happens before the 70th week of Daniel or are the referring to the rapture at the 6th seal?
  9. The Light

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is not correct. Jesus comes to earth for the 144,000 and you should be able to see that they return to heaven as they are standing before the throne. Jesus has come for the first fruits of the harvest and they are the wave offering to the Lord. So yes, Jesus returns to the earth..... Rev...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Certainly, the Messiah comes at the end of the trumpets, but He also comes at the 6th seal. Here is the scriptural proof. In Revelation 14 we see that Jesus comes for a harvest. After this harvest those that remain are cast into the wrath of God. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is really an excellent answer. However, I will point again to a lack of understanding. This coming of Jesus does not occur at the end of the trumpets. This coming of Jesus occurs at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and...
  12. The Light

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    Ok. Sorry. Show me the prophecy that shows Jesus birth date and I will take care of it.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Symbolic Recaps? In your opinion where do these verses fit with the rest of Scripture? Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the...
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    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    Yes. If you have time start a thread. I think getting all angles is the best approach. As for Andersons make believe Calendar, if God says three and a half years is 1260 days, I would think that would be something important to pay attention to.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You don't believe what is written?
  16. The Light

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Most have abandoned it because of lack of understanding. Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
  17. The Light

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    The evidence appears to conclude that Jesus dies on April 3, 33 AD. Why do think He died in 30 AD?
  18. The Light

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    Nope he can't. And there's a reason why? Feel free to use any Calendar you want and get any help you need. What year was Jesus born?
  19. The Light

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    You ask all the wrong questions. You should be more interested in the date of Jesus death. The OP shows He died in 30 AD. Do you think that's correct?
  20. The Light

    Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

    Oh boy. After 69 weeks Messiah is cut off. Gee, how confusing.