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  1. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Yes. Of course I agree to the above. But we do have to have faith first before our works are of any value to God... they certainly are of value to other persons -whether to one doing good is a believer or not. This was the Eph 2 teaching by Paul. I think you might be misunderstanding my point...
  2. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I stand by what I stated. The Apostles understood what Jesus had done after His death. However, it was Paul that gathered all the teachings and created what is commonly known as Christian Theology, especially in the letter to the Romans. For instance, I don't believe the Apostles taught the idea...
  3. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Before,,,, I'm still waiting for you to supply support for your blasphemy against God Almighty. In the meantime,,,it matters not what YOU or anybody believes about OSAS. It's a heretical belief found nowhere in the bible, either the OT or the NT. It's a teaching that did not exist in the early...
  4. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I am STILL waiting for @BeforeThereWas to present authoratative written confirmation that the CC teaches the blasphemy he has stated regarding Mary and God being angry. I'm sure that since he makes such outrageous statements.... he will surely be able to post the document from which he learned...
  5. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    You seem to have lost your train of thought.
  6. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I was referring to your statement that if a person is IN CHRIST he has to be sinless. Here it your statement again: Final answer.. = Every Christian is 'in Christ......."one wtih God", "seated in Heavenly places"......so, if you have sin, you are not "in Christ" or "one with God" or in the...
  7. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    I don't understand what the above verses have to do with what I posted.
  8. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    You should write a book. You sure do like to talk. How about replying to my scripture instead? Guess you can't do it. Difficult to argue with scripture. Post scripture that PROVES that we must have the Holy Spirit indwelling in us BEFORE we can become born again. Or do not bother responding.
  9. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Do persons that give everything away lack love? Even atheists that give things away have love. I'm arguing with scripture? And what did I state that does not agree with scripture? I don't really understand WHY you're even replying. WHERE in the NT does it state that good works need to come...
  10. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Are you serious about your Final answer? This: Final answer.. = Every Christian is 'in Christ......."one wtih God", "seated in Heavenly places"......so, if you have sin, you are not "in Christ" or "one with God" or in the KOG... ("Seated in Heavenly places").......because to be there, you have...
  11. GodsGrace

    Trump said "Sunday is the deadline".......and Hamas said... "Lets negotiate more".

    How old are you soberxp? This "war" has been going on my whole life. It won't end until the terrorists stop bombing Israel, both from the air and on the ground. The Israeli's have the right to live a peaceful life just as every other nation does. And by terrorists I mean the Palestinians and now...
  12. GodsGrace

    Trump said "Sunday is the deadline".......and Hamas said... "Lets negotiate more".

    Right. But so many of them have died already....(the hostages) and so many more Israeli's have died... I wonder if it's worth the wait. Plus, I'm sure there are other things going on that we know nothing about.... so we just have to trust that they're doing their best.
  13. GodsGrace

    Trump said "Sunday is the deadline".......and Hamas said... "Lets negotiate more".

    Trump or Netenyahu said that if the hostages are not released, Israel should "finish the job". (it was Trump-giving his backing to N). I ask myself why the job has not been finished yet. I don't believe negotiations are possible with terrorists. Why negotiate with your neighbor down the street...
  14. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    The above is absolutely balsphemous against God. A God that requires someone to calm Him down, is NOT the God of the bible. To say nothing of the fact that the CC does not teach this. Please post something authortative from the CC that supports your mistaken statement.
  15. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    I think we all agree on this. Your reply didn't explain what it means for Jesus to be your Lord. Does it mean that we're to obey Jesus? Did Jesus tell us to do good works? Did He say what happens if we do not? See Pearl, you're stating a teaching that is not in the bible. You make comments...
  16. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    I guess you gave me a test I didn't pass. Faith,,, Everything you post is AN OPINION of yours. I really will not respond to your opinions. YOU stated that we are SAVED FIRST.... YOU said that first God give us the Holy Spirit... Persons with the Holy Spirit dwelling are SAVED persons. THEN...
  17. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Yes. That's one explanation why Catholics pray to Mary. They also believe she imparts many blessings. In Matthew 6:7-9 Jesus was referring to repeating the same word or words many times in a row. The Jews still do this at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem. It means, for example, to repeat over and...
  18. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Why are you speaking to me about something I already know? What I'M speaking about is OBEDIENCE. God demands our obedience. Obedience includes doing good works. WHY do I get push-back on this? Do YOU believe we're to obey God? Do YOU believe we're to do good works? What you're saying that is...
  19. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Please post the accusations. I know we're super sensitized these days,,, but even with that - I don't believe I've accused you of anything.
  20. GodsGrace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    I wasn't referring only to translation. AI is going to effect everything.