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Hi, H Are you referring to Galatians 5:17? Sorry, but the "s" in Spirit is a small "s" and NOT the Holy Spirit, but our own mind that knows the law, the context of those verses. See Romans 7:25.

Both. If Picaso, a famous artist, said that blue and red make green, and I tried it but all I got was purple, then should I believe Picaso? No, because my experience confirms that Picaso was in error, making Picaso a liar. But if we start out with the ultimate giver of Truth, Jesus, and you...

I'll be off the computer for a while. Getting my computer upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, but having Best Buy do it for me seeing as I've got there insurance. Talk to you all later. Behave everybody!

I would say one correction. We come to Him by choice knowing we are weak sinners and can never, in ourselves, our own works, be good enough for heaven. We don't put on Christ; from our honesty of heart and our recognition of our complete helplessness and sin, He comes inside us so that we have...

I agree.

That's the whole kitncaboodle - body, soul and spirit. But sin dwells WITHIN. Mind and heart. marks, think about this. Jesus said for us to be perfect. How could that be true now if the body had sin in it? Your logic is why there is this false doctrine that we will only be perfect when in...

But if you say that flesh is only our body, then you really don't know what is reborn and what our nature is.

The nature of a lion is to kill and eat meat. The nature of a sheep is to munch all day on grass. The carnal nature of a human is to sin. The divine nature of Christ is to be righteous. When we are born again we have the same nature as Christ. That is why we have the MIND of Christ. The mind is...

Yes, but sin is not from the body, but from our mind and emotions/spirit and soul which are reborn. The old nature is carnal and called being in the flesh.

I hope you can see now that flesh means carnality. That is the old nature. Galatians 5:19-21 is carnality. It is of the flesh. You still haven't answered how in the world you believe Romans 8:9 is talking about our body that we are supposedly not in when in the Spirit. Is being in the Spirit an...

@marks We are made up of body, soul, and spirit. What is born again and we are no longer in is our old nature. What makes up our new nature is both our soul and spirit - our mind and emotions/heart. Verse 10 addresses our outer shell, our BODY. It must also die, and when resurrected it also...

I'm saying flesh in this context of Paul is nature. You only believe it is body. So I'm asking you how you think we are not in our body when in the Spirit. Doesn't make sense.

I already did. Romans 8:9

You never mentioned nature. Do you know what part of us is our nature reborn? When we are not in the flesh, that means we are no longer in our old nature, but in the Spirit that killed the old nature, nailing it to the cross. Therefore, flesh is nature, not body. Romans 8:9 makes no sense at...

You answer my question. I'll put it another way. If you are not in the FLESH but in the Spirit, and you say the flesh is the BODY, and we aren't in it, what happened to our body? And when are we in the Spirit? Now, or in heaven?

I have a chore to do, so I'll be back later.

Well, I can't wait any longer for you to answer my question against your premise that flesh always means body. I'v In order for something to be reborn, it first has to die. So what dies for our nature to be reborn? You say body. Wrong. That comes later, and verse 10 is so that we would not...

Look at body, soul, and spirit What is nature? What is flesh? Romans 8:9 says we are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. So where is our body if we aren't in it?

It is how Paul uses it, and he uses it two different ways, so the CONTEXT (which I've argued for before with you) must be taken into consideration.

It has to do with Mary's modesty???