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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Can you tell me how you interpret the following passages... 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Would you agree that Satan is a spirit being? If so, do you think he is always possessing someone at all times? You have claimed that spirits can't exist outside of a physical host. What physical host was Satan possessing when he was tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    He's not understanding the implications of his claims. He is making a blanket statement that spirits can only exist within physical hosts. He posted scripture showing that angels are ministering spirits. So, the implication of his claim that spirits can only exist withing physical hosts would...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Do you not believe that angels are spirits? The Bible teaches that. Hebrews 1:14 calls them "ministering spirits". They clearly operate outside of physical hosts. So, why can't demons also do that?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    So, why can't you see that @TribulationSigns disagrees with you about this? He does not see Satan, demons/devils, and angels as being actual spirit beings who are separate beings from human beings. He has made that very clear. You say that they work through human hosts, but don't try to say that...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    How about you clarify what your beliefs actually are instead of saying some things that make it seem like you believe one thing and other things that make it seem like you believe something else? Can you just clarify what you believe for everyone for the sake of helping us to not misrepresent...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Ridiculous! Daniel 9:24 is all about Jesus and what He has already done! It is fulfilled! It's not just talking about reconciliation for an elect remnant of Jews for a certain time period. His sacrifice long ago was "once for all", meaning once for all time (Hebrews 10:10). Hebrews 2:17...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    See, you're not clear about what he was saying, either, yet he got upset with me just because I misunderstood what he said. He definitely has trouble with communicating clearly, but I guess that's somehow everyone else's fault.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    I agree with this reasoning. I believe there is a definite direct relation between 2 Thessalonians 2:8 and Revelation 19:11-21 and they are clearly the same event, which is the future second coming of Christ.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    What are you intending to say here exactly? Be more specific if you want people to understand what you're saying. I have no idea of what your point is here.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Now, here's something we can agree on. His logic, which is typical of pre-trib logic, is ridiculous and this was a good way to illustrate that.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    If I misunderstood you, it wasn't on purpose. So, if anyone is guilty here, it's you for being unclear. And whether I misrepresented you or not doesn't change the fact that you often misrepresent the views of others. I'm not saying you do it on purpose, but you do. That's what you need to do...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    You can't seriously be comparing your work schedule to a biblical prophecy? Please get serious. A set amount of time was determined for the 70 week prophecy to be fulfilled, but people like you try to add thousands of years of time to the determined time period as an attempt to get around the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    How about actually answering my questions instead of trying to divert attention away from them? I'll try again. How will things like the reconciliation for iniquity, the end of sins and the finishing of transgression be accomplished in the future when Jesus already accomplished that, and the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    HUGE LOL at you for not understanding why I said that. Your lack of discernment about this is truly unbelievable. Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Nowhere. I didn't say that you did. Did you just speed read through people's posts or something? How is it that you so often misunderstand what people are saying? You need to be more clear when you say things like this. They did not knowingly and purposely prophesy of two comings of Christ. Is...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    How exactly do the 70 weeks "culminate in everlasting righteousness" in your view (which I assume is when Jesus returns) when you still have 1,000 years plus Satan's little season's worth of unrighteousness occurring after that? So much for "everlasting righteousness" being culminated when you...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    This might be the most ironic thing ever said.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    What are you even arguing here? First, you criticize Premillennialists that they "must have two comings" and then you proceed to show that you too believe in two comings of Christ. The two comings of Christ that post-trib premills believe in are the same two comings of Christ that amills like us...