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At this point, we're simply indulging ourselves in abject disagreement.

Sure, it does. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Sure, it does, and you know it.

Impossible. Jesus created all things that came into existence. ...apart from him not even one thing came into existence. (NWT) . In which column does Jesus belong? Note: It's not an essay question. Answer or don't answer, your choice.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

The rapid-fire rotating questions tactic won't work on me. ...apart from him not even one thing came into existence. (NWT) . In which column does Jesus belong? Note: It's not an essay question. Answer or don't answer, your choice.

That's nice. The rules are still the rules. :)

Acts 13:33 Parallel: God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. There was no begetting of the pre-human Jesus.

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The implication of a subtle difference alters the whole perception of the creation account? ...apart from him not even one thing came into existence. (NWT) . In which column does Jesus belong? Note: It's not an essay question. Answer or don't answer, your choice.

Logic schmogic. By Christ were all things made and without Him was not any thing made that was made. He never came into existence. He always was. He belongs in the left column, along with the Father and the Spirit. The Son of God was not made. Before Abraham was, HE IS. New King James Version...

Why MUST He have been made? Concerned with the word "through," are you? Let me help you. I really like the way the New World Translation puts it: All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. Who's "we?" No assumption is necessary. The...

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. John 1:3 Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made...

John 1:3 Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

Typo: Ananias was lying to Peter and I think you know that.

@Wrangler @Aunty Jane @Robert Gwin . In which column does Jesus belong? Note: It's not an essay question. Answer or don't answer, your choice.

Why is it ok for those who object to trinitarianism to make assumptions based on context, but when Trinitarians do it, it's called "imposing belief onto Scripture?" I'm simply appealing to logic. How can a person lie to something that isn't a sentient being? Ananias was lying to Peter and...

Yes and it's not logical.

In which column does Jesus belong?

By the way, I do my best not to take things personally, but you sure don't mind making things personal, do you? Any particular reason they would need to mention Him in the prologue? We seem to just be making up the rules of hermeneutics as we go. God is not God unless He is fully described at...