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  1. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Mr. Ego rides again! :) We need dissenters who play the role of the devil's advocate...it makes things more interesting. Imagine everyone being in agreement? Boring, right?
  2. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    This new forum structure doesn't give out many notifications. I only get about 1/3 of the notifications from what people post on my threads. It's a forum thing....not me ignoring you. It was not intended on my part! :)
  3. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Answering @Ronald David Bruno Only Protestants buy into the imputed thing. It was an invention of Luther. Catholics believe in "imparted" righteousness...which is biblical. And orthodox believers believe in a real oneness with God...not just an assumed righteousness. So then you are in the...
  4. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Another propaganda victim. Where do you all come from? :rolleyes: No one is imputed "with" not even in the OT. The correct way to use the English language is to say..."imputed "to". So you first need a thesaurus...and THEN do a bible study. And you are simply expressing a human opinion...that...
  5. Episkopos

    Heresy or error?

    If that means you will stop copy-pasting silly propaganda all over my threads...it is a welcome event! :)
  6. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    How can you say that when I can read what you post? You believe that God pretends, or sees something that's not there. Of course, God sees the future. But that doesn't mean we do. Did God not see that most of the Israelites would perish in the wilderness? If so, then why was He so upset with...
  7. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    The simple minded cannot receive instruction. They are wise to do evil but of righteousness they know not. You are not understanding the verse you are alluding to. The word "simplicity" has to do with focus...not how easy it is. Do you believe the bible is authoritive? If so, then, please use...
  8. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    May I suggest looking to other authors of the bible and Jesus, who IS the truth...and not just a bad reading of Paul? Paul was only interested in speaking about the higher walk...the Promised Land walk....which so few understand. We are not to be as children in understanding. I cite Paul...
  9. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Of course it does. That's why I look at the whole of scripture rather than foolishly rely on what obviously people can easily misinterpret. The foolishness is in thinking one understands Paul's message to be the very opposite of the rest of the bible including the words of Jesus....who is...
  10. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    On a thread about imputation it doesn't help that there is a religious tradition being cited here that has no biblical basis. That has to be addressed as it is foundational in knowing where we stand with God. What I am addressing is a real problem that is holding people back from knowledge of...
  11. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    The Israelites in the desert were led by the Spirit...in a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. Yet these did not enter into the Promised Land. They were supernaturally saved yet their unbelief caused them to wander in the desert until they perished...without having entered into God's...
  12. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    There is no balance in "assumed righteousness". It is purely a human thing to do...with its desire for self-preservation. Waiting on the Lord is something else entirely. In that case a person considers himself as nothing...and it is God who comes down and raises that person up. When that...
  13. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Don't make ignorance of history a virtue. Likewise know the bible. Not just a few verses taken out of context that support a religious justification for uncrucified flesh. Notice that ALL the verses that are misunderstood come from Paul's...
  14. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    I do. You think that whatever is written in the bible is up for your interpretation. If it says the faith OF Christ...you will claim your faith as being that OF Christ. Lots of modern religionists do that very thing. That's called..:"name it claim it". You see something you WANT to be true for...
  15. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Again, being LED by the Spirit is not the same as being IN the Spirit. We can follow Christ at different distances under OUR own power. The wilderness walk is a testing ground for conformity to Christ...in death...so that we can fully surrender ourselves (rather than all this defending the flesh...
  16. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    God doesn't meet our expectations, nor should He. We should be meeting His expectations. So we have the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. God can do as He wants without having us go off on a tangent because we are unable to wait on Him. I see the whole religious system that way....moving...
  17. Episkopos

    Heresy or error?

    The truth is that there is power in the blood (life) of Christ. There is no need to pretend that sinfulness can be covered up with holiness, and that God sees us as something we are not. God is not blind. We don't need to call God a liar to declare ourselves righteous because of our beliefs...
  18. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    Calvin held to an extreme position. He believed that divine grace trumped human responsibility. When he realized that people who saw themselves as under grace were slackers when it came to human responsibility...he sought to force holiness on people. He even condemned people to death. All this...
  19. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    I know you do. :) But the Israelites DIED in the wilderness. Wake up call alert! We will be cut off...just they were...by failing to enter in. This is speaking of the higher walk...which can only be imputed to someone...if they have actually been translated into Zion to walk in resurrection...
  20. Episkopos

    Imputation is based on the Old Testament

    God never cursed His Son. The religious outer man did this...to preserve his peace. The chastisement of OUR peace was on Him. He was cursed by evil men. You are taking the side of evil men here if you think what was imputed to Him was true. Of course evil men impute things on people that...