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This is just my opinion of course...not sure what it's based on - maybe history. We're so far over the edge I don't think there's any coming back and the future is too dark for me to see. Just forgive? No. I don't believe we're to forgive evil. Confront it? Yes. But how? Violence begets...

This is the teleological argument for God's existance. As Dr. Stephen Meyer would say it: The design argument. I think it's one of the best.

Hi Walter.... OK But those are the scriptues that are used to support that God must be obeyed and if He's not we will forfeit our salvation. But now we should go look for all the verses that are used to SUPPORT OSAS.... And there ARE some that sound as if OSAS might be right. So now what? Do...

You need ONLY ONE verse to prove that Jesus taught that we are to keep the law? There are plenty.... But here's JUST ONE: Matthew 7:21 21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. You said...

Agreed. Jesus came here for more than one reason... and one was also to be a good example for us. And, yes, the church (small c) is supposed to reflect what JESUS TAUGHT. Couldn't agree more. I've said this many times..... Many are fixated on Jesus for salvation.... and indeed His sacrifice was...

Wow. A lot here... will have to wait till after dinner... later.

Yes sir. The Kingdom of God is within. I agree with most of what you've stated... Don't know much about the end times stuff...so I'll let that go. But yes, Abraham's bossom was hades....or paradise. And many of these forums make up their very own theology.

Oh...... I AM willing to discuss the character of God,,,, GOD IS LOVE GOD IS MERCY GOD IS JUSTICE Would you agree? God is not CAUSING the chaos of this world. I'd say that because we DO NOT obey God we have all this chaos. I'd also say that it's caused by our free will and by the presence of...

LOL Every non-biblical belief system TWISTS the heck out of every scripture!

The story of Lazarus is NOT about the Kingdom Age. It's about HADES. EVERYTHING Jesus spoke was with intention. Jesus had a lot of rebuking to do. So,,,that has nothing to do with the story of Lazarus. That is Hidden,,, Because YOU don't care to believe it's a real story. Most THEOLOGIANS do...

You're not responding to my question. YOU said that the SPIRIT is a life force. A life force is what makes you be ALIVE...... I asked: IF the SPIRIT is a LIFE FORCE.... then how come even UNBELIEVERS have this life force?? And I didn't mention anything about sin or sinning. I'm not producing...

Yes sir. Ignorance is bliss. Here's a question for you mailmandan: Do you believe that JOHN and PETER passed on incorrect teachings? Do you believe that they wrote on some pages and NEVER SPOKE TO ANYONE about what Jesus taught?

Sounds OK But here's what you stated in your post no. 33 But the difference with those who are both 'called' AND 'chosen', is that Christ already owns them, for The Father owned them before and gave them to Christ (John 17). The chosen cannot fall away, because they represent with Christ the...

And, once again, I was right!

Yada Yada Your statement is tiring and boring and ignorant. John Calvin was infallible I suppose. Please stop ASSUMING beliefs I do not hold. You're misrepresenting me.

That's an interesting method. If you just google: John 1:1 biblehub ---it brings you to a biblehub page with almost all of the translations. My method is that all scripture must be harmonized.... differences must be reconciled. The way some post verses basically renders the NT untrustworthy...

Oh what a most lovely point ! But, alas, some do not understand this.... including mailmandan.... Yes ma'am.... better to believe some guy from a few hundred years ago than Those that were taught by THE APOSTLES and who DIED FOR THEIR FAITH. Yes. Something is amiss in the Christian religion...

Hey Walter You just got another LIKE! Don't go too crazy... there's plenty there. Here are 2 opposing verses: John 10:27-28 27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never * perish; and no one will snatch them out of My...

Hi Walter You've hit upon one of my pet peeves about the bible. The fact that almost anything can be proven. I agree with you that one has to read ALL scripture on a subject and not pick one verse out,,,or even a couple. Actually, I'm only interested, at the end of years of discussion, in...

Like what questions for instance?? I thought you wanted to discuss the problem of theodicy. Instead you want to discuss why bad things happen to good people? Looks like you have a good grasp on the why.... :okbro