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So do you believe that anyone knows when the second coming is?

I do post them but when I posted to you that Jesus came on the clouds of heaven and was led into His Fathers presence where thrones were set in place and you say that is not heaven does it even matter?

16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. 17 The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder...

I do post the passages that I talk about and you even reply to them but how can I post passages when i'm showing that they don't say what a lot of people believe? That the point some event arn't in the bible

No I'm showing what the bible actually says to get the proper interpretation because we all know that the bible doesn't contradict itself. Regardless after posting what the bible actually says would you now agree that they are two separate events in chapters 16 & 19? John is the only person...

How so I just posted what the bible says. Rev 16 mentions the term Armageddon and rev 19 doesn't. Babylon the great is destroyed in revelation 16 by the beast as Revelation 17:16-17 confirms who destroys her and revelation 19 is the defeat of the beast and the false prophet by Jeus. Thats...

???? sorry but I'm not sure what you mean its a question

You know exactly what I believe I stated it in the post you did this reply too so why did you even bother are you just trying to make me look a fool? I never denied a kingdom on the earth I said that it’s not a literal thousand year kingdom with Jesus on the earth it is both spiritual on earth...

I have never denied a kingdom on earth amil teaching is a kingdom on earth it’s just not the literal thousand years with Jesus physically on the earth It’s spiritual on earth and in heaven

Not at all we are apart of the kingdom on earth because it’s within us

Yet Revelation 19 it says nothing of the antichrist or Armageddon or even Jesus and his armies coming down to the earth. Do you see that events always need to be added to the scriptures to prove the futurist view? The battle in rev 16 is the battle at Armageddon which is a different battle than...

Do you believe that anyone knows when the second coming is?

So were in those verses does it show Jesus on the earth? Once again John see a vision of Jesus up in heaven. The enemies are on the earth but its not a literal battle its a symbolic vision of Jesus defeating all of His enimies with the sword of His mouth His word. Do you believe that this is...

Except it doesn't say on the earth and it actually says John sees a vision where the thrones were set. So if its literal and on the earth would it really omit that? Yes I have and we are in the kingdom on earth and in heaven

Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language...

Comon be honest with yourself here it says that Jesus is approaching heaven not the earth. You said that the bible doesn't show Jesus reigning in heaven and I proved that it does. That still doesn't have anything to do with the topic of Revelation chapter 20 not stating Jesus on the earth

Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language...

Thanks but I do know all of the events that you are referring too as I use to believe in the same views as you do until I was challenged to actually study them for myself. Then I realized that what I and most believe is not actually in the bible so thats why I debate them. For example and...

Did you read my post? You keep saying that people are being deceived but thats not what I stated the deceiving is. If Revelation 20 is supposed to be literal the events below are omitted from it Jesus on the earth Jerusalem A time of peace on the earth Jesus ascending back up to heaven (He...

But it was never actually prophesied or was anyone ever actually told to build it. It symbolic for the church that God is building. When Jesus said that "it is finished" it was finished. The bible doesn't contradict itself. so let that show the proper interpretation.