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  1. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Read the context Paul was disciplining them and correcting them they though that they themselves had obtained their wealth. The reigning wasn't the same reigning. But you need to think about what Paul said in the verses I quoted.
  2. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You probably have no idea of what I think the 70th week is so you don’t know what I promote.
  3. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I love the 3 stooges lol Yes the 70th week was upon Daniel’s people not the world
  4. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well it’s not each tribe the tribe of Dan is missing and Jesus isn’t a literal slain lamb or lion either
  5. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes of course I do and I did post that earlier today
  6. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What I’m saying is actually no what Paul was saying is that revelation 20:4 is a current reality spiritually while alive on earth. Paul not me says that while on earth or in heaven we are raised spiritually, reigning and seated with Christ which is all mentioned in revelation 20:4 What John...
  7. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because the ones pointed out in that verse died physically but even though they died they are still alive spiritually. I have shown scripture that Paul states that the raising and reigning in revelation chapter 20 is a current reality and here is one more Ephesians 2:6 And God raised us up...
  8. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So when John saw Jesus as the slain man was that too specific? Just as John heard of the lion of the tribe of Judah he turned and saw the slain lamb John heard of the 144000 he then saw the great multitude of ever tribe land nation. The 144 is symbolic for the 12 tribes times the 12 deciples...
  9. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I believe that too but at the end of our world just like revelation 20 says.
  10. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There is no 7 year tribulation anywhere in the bible. If Revelation is literal then a 7 year tribulation would be mentioned wouldn’t it? It can’t be the 12 tribes in the 144000 it’s not even the 12 tribes the tribe of Dan is missing.
  11. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    But Paul says that people alive in their literal bodies were already raised with Christ he also says that we reign with Jesus in life now. Romans 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of...
  12. Marty fox

    the real danger of Amillism

    Covenants are based on two entities and some were conditional but there has never been a person who has ever lived that could of lived up to Gods conditions that’s why we have Jesus and the new covenant. We are saved by grace through faith not works that’s it.
  13. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    First remember that the saints are sealed and protected from the wrath of God in revelation 7 so they are still there. Revelation 7 also shows that the saints are killed in the great tribulation so they are there too thus the wrath of God and the great tribulation are different so no pretrib...
  14. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 20:7-9 7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.9 They marched across the breadth...
  15. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What did you see different about rev 20 today?
  16. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you mean amils possibility? We do live under satans wrath and Gods wrath but we only can suffer from satans wrath not Gods wrath. We can live through Gods wrath but it is on the unjust not the just.
  17. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    In post trib (amil) Jesus can only come after satan is released and I believe that he is thus He can come at any time.
  18. Marty fox

    the real danger of Amillism

    Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear. What would sooner disappear? They can’t be under a covenant relationship with God our only relationship with God now is through Jesus.