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I think it's important that look at how the word was used in the scripture and how it was meant in the particular verse(s) one is looking at. Words in the bible are sometimes used "in a manner of speaking" and not in a completely literal sense. So we need to discern what GOD meant, since He is...

Hades is just the grave, or place of the dead. Which God can resurrect from, if they were people of faith.....to become "like the angels" as Jesus said, not to go live in another body of flesh on the earth. The spirit and power of Elijah is not of Elijah himself, but is of God.

God's sovereign choice and calling. Unfair? You think it's "not fair" that some weren't chosen to be a prophet? Do you know what kind of life they had....it sure wasn't an easy calling! You're thinking with the mind of flesh.

...just by way of explaining a bit....I think it all makes Joseph's adoption of Mary's child something even stronger than adoption in a conventional situation, if that were possible.

I think all the bases are covered, adoption through Joseph, biologically through Mary..... AND I have to think the fact that Mary had known no other man but her husband Joseph must mean something as well. Also there is no case to be made that Jesus had a biological father who was NOT from the...

Brother, I noticed someone quoted you mentioning about Joseph adopting Jesus....a legally binding situation that could affect the argument legally. (And the spirit of adoption that we received is no light thing, it is strong and binding in every respect, every bit as much as if we had somehow...

Sure don't want to sidetrack this thread, but just want to put this to rest....to start with there is no reincarnation...the bible says explicitly, that "it is appointed unto men but ONCE to die and after that the judgment". John the Baptist wasn't a reincarnation of Elijah and neither did he...

Brother, this is not a drill. War is being declared. I mean no disrespect but let's stop throwing sand at each other, and try and come together to find the answers to this very real and highly dangerous challenge to to our faith. This is not about winning arguments, but real Christian souls...

Johann, I'm having trouble catching up with myself lately, but the lights are starting to come on with regard to this subject....thank you for kindly bringing it to our attention and to the OP for starting this thread! I think you are all very right in being alert and paying attention to this...

May the Lord give them eyes to see. That speaker doesn't understand the hidden nature of truth in the scriptures....hid from the wise and learned but revealed to little children. The carnal mind is certainly enmity with God and can't perceive the things of the spirit. Jews are sometimes...

Yes...intellectual objections are just that, objections of the natural mind which can't perceive the things of the Spirit. And usually the natural intellect is just protecting what the fallen nature of the heart desires. So it boils down to the heart. Though if we can address some of the...

Shalom....peace to you, because no one is saying otherwise. She wasn't limiting the rejection of Jesus to Jews in her post. All flesh is the same and it's desire to feed itself and focus on earthly things instead of heavenly is the same for all people. The things she is saying apply to many...

I don't know if it was wrath or judgment/chastisement that came upon the Israelites...but notice that the faithful few were spared. There is another way of looking at that part of the story.....that flesh cannot enter the kingdom and so the Israelites had to die to their flesh nature before...

You made the point that unbelievers in the bible is always referring to God's people. I showed (proved) with the example of 2 Cor 10 that this is not always the case. Will you be honest and acknowledge that? Hebrews is speaking first to the Jews (then to the Gentiles). So yes in that case...

This is one way in which you err.....you assume that every time a word is used in scripture that that word is always referring to the same thing. Sometimes words in the bible are used interchangeably, or the same word can be referring to different things. Need very much to look at the context...

Your anti-Semitism is equal to your anti-Catholicism. It is on full display here...and is very wrong. More of your usual deflection tactics here, which always consist of accusations. You are quite aggressive. It must be because you have no argument for the point that was made.

You mean your over-analysis. The writer of Hebrews was writing to JEWS....exhorting them to BELIEVE the gospel, just in case some of his predominantly Jewish/Israeli listeners had not yet believed. He then goes on to say: Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As...

Believing what GOD says is not judging...that is another false accusation or assumption. The bible says the unbelieving will be cast into the lake of fire. Does that sound like they will be saved? Being accepted into heaven without first being reconciled to God through Christ....is an oxymoron.

Go back and read the entirety of what I posted, when I first brought that verse, and try to see the point. There is just no case made in the scriptures for unbelievers being saved. You have to ignore, twist and wrest passages of scripture in order to come a conclusion like that. The new...

They like Kierkegaard because he believed that unbelievers will be saved. So contrary to the word of God that speaks and warns all over the place about perishing and hell. Is God a man that he should lie?