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But that is not what 1 Corinthians 13 is talking about. The context tells you it is the second coming.

It is interesting that you believe the Bible is "the perfect" yet don't believe what it says in Revelation 20, let alone what it says will follow those who believe. You are an interesting mixture of dichotomies.

Jesus is perfect. Colossians 1:28 Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. You are mixing apples and oranges.

Do you have Preterist leanings? I didn't know. It sounds like you think Jesus already came in 70 A.D.

That's not what I'm talking about. Jesus does perfect and confirm us in this lifetime.

Right. Look at Hosea 6:1-3 The two days equal 2000 years, and the one day is the Millennium. Also look at the early and latter rain - 2000 years apart. A Call to Repentance 6 Come, and let us return to the Lord; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up. 2...

The gift won't cease until Jesus comes again and we literally see Him, FACE TO FACE.

I don't think so.

Their prophecies concerning Donald Trump are amazing.

@Episkopos I believe you. You're great with great insight.

I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of God which was given to you by Christ Jesus, 5 that you were enriched in everything by Him in all utterance and all knowledge, 6 even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you, 7 so that you come short in no gift, eagerly waiting for the...

I don't think that is what Dave meant, only that no new revelation would be handed down, though he doesn't believe in today's supernatural gifts calling them of the Antichrist! The gift of prophecy on a personal level still exists. Throughout church history, there was a long dry spell, until...

If what you are saying is true, it was true for the early rain. We are in the latter rain that falls before the harvest. The word "cease" in 1 Corinthians 13 regarding tongues is "pauo" which means to "pause." I don't believe in any new world revelation, but do personal revelation as I've...

Yes, John wrote Revelation; however, you are twisting the meaning of scripture.

Peter called Paul's writings, "scripture." So all the inspired writings of the NT apostles are scripture. 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles...

It seems many ARE "walking in sunshine, in the glory of God." There are many testimonies of those pressing in to God and their multiple experiences.

You don't kill someone by burying them alive, they must be dead first.

So you know what He looks like? You know what color His eyes are. God knows those things about us, but we don't know those things about Him. Our picture of Him is dim like looking into a dark glass. Surely you know the difference. We do NOT know God as He knows us, because none of that is in...

Unless you don't believe in the second coming, scripture is not face to face. Face to face is face to face. Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

It is just as Paul said. We see through a dark glass. But in heaven we will know God just as He knows us. If you think you know everything there is to know about God and what He's done, then you are not reading the word. We will know all that has not been told to us. John 21:25 And there are...