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  1. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    That's a good answer - for the noun. Now, give me the Biblical definition for the verb . . . Thanks for showing that you completely miss the entire point of faith. Faith IS an action as well as a "thing". A respected scholarly Protestant source, The Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Okay - define "Faith" in the Biblical sense.
  3. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You make a statement like this - and you claim to know your Bible?? BOTH James (James 2:14-26) and Paul (1 Cor. 13:1-13, Gal, 5:6) makes the SAME argument: That faith is WORTHLESS without love/charity/works. Paul goes on further to explain the same thing about works alone being useless unless...
  4. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    And this is the crus of your folly - that you refuse to accept the Biblical reality that Faith has a few ingredients other than belief: Love Hope Works Obedience Surrender The faith that justified Abraham had ALL of those ingredients (James 2:21). Paul doesn't discount this in Rom. 4:1-3 - he...
  5. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    WRONG. Without love/charity - faith is as worthless as something stuck to the bottom of your shoe. I didn't say that - the Holy Spirit did when he spoke through Paul. 1 Cor. 13:1-3 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You can do good works until the cows com home - yet it does NOT prove that you are justified in the eyes of God. I know atheists who are some of the nicest and most generous people, yet they are NOT justified. #1 and #2 are both aspects of the SAME thing - being right with God. #1 is...
  7. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    No, that's NOT what you've been saying. YOU have repeatedly stated that justification has multiple definitions and that Paul and James were discussing those different definitions. LEARN the difference between a definition of a word and a different aspect of a word.
  8. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Again – this is complete nonsense. Paul and James are NOT speaking about TWO different definitions of justification. They’re simply talking about two ASPECTS of it. LEARN the difference. Paul is talking about BEING justified - and James is talking about displaying that justification. Paul...
  9. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You're confused again because you think that there are TWO definitions of "justified". There aren't. To be "Justified" simple means to be made right with God. MOST Protestants believe we are simply "covered" by the righteousness of Christ. Catholics believe that God actually makes us righteous...
  10. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    That’s a crock. Believing that your cat will be a nuisance is NOT faith. It is simply expectation, which is only ONE ingredient of faith. You’re just deducing from past experience that your cat will do that. Faith requires FAR more than that, as Scripture teaches (James 2:14-26, 1 Cor...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    WRONG again. Why do you keep refusing to accept that “belief” is just that and is NOT faith. The DEMONS believe (pis'-tis/pist-yoo'-o). WHY is it necessary to keep showing you this?? Are you SO full of spiritual pride that you refuse the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit?? a. Abraham had FAITH...
  12. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    What an idiotic statement. Catholics are the ones who showed YOU and the rest of the WORLD that Scripture. Why would we “not acknowledge” it?? WE simple understand what it means – whereas, YOU are still confused . . .
  13. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    The actual Greek doesn’t say he was “considered” righteous/justified. It says: James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Why do you feel the need to complicate and pervert the Word of God?? James and Paul are talking about the SAME...
  14. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You actually expect me to believe that the "faith" you have in your cat being a nuisance is the same kind of "faith" in God that requires love, obedience and hope? That is utter nonsense. As for your stale argument about "believing" being a verb and therefore, equates to "faith" - I have...
  15. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    I’ve ALREADY shown you this. The fact that you deny the truth of Scripture doesn’t make it “untrue”. It simply illustrates your refusal to accept it. And I already explained the CONTEXT of Heb. 6:4-6 to you and the fact that Jesus didn’t lie in Matt. 12:30-32 like YOU think He did ONE more...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    This is a semantic argument. The actual Greek doesn’t say he was “considered” righteous/justified. It says: James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? For sake of argument, however – even if we go with YOUR strict definition, it STILL...
  17. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Why do you keep insisting that “Belief” and “Faith” are the same thing?? That’s why James says that Abraham was made righteous by his WORkS. James 2:21-22 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he DID when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his...
  18. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Open your eyes, man. Nobody said that the sinners and tac collectors were “once saved” people. They were JEWS – children of God through the Law – and THAT is what the story of the Prodigal Son is about. It also applies to EVERY child of Cod who sins against Him, WE are children of God through...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Thanks for that idiotic and completely dishonest dissertation on the teachings of the Catholic Church. First of all – WHO told you that a Catholic “MUST” be of the exact same thought with the Church on every subject? This asinine statement illustrates the fact that you are NOT equipped to...
  20. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You're dead wrong. Like I showed you before – this is a narrow and myopic view of this Parable. You’re missing the polyvalent ramifications because you refuse to see CONTEXT of it. Jesus tells this parable in response to the fact that the Pharisees were judging Him because of the fact that he...