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  1. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    To be honest - I haven't read your posts - until you responded to mine. I guess I assumed that since you were trying to refute what I was saying - that you were a proponent of OSAS.
  2. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Agreed.
  3. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    And this is nothing but another perversion of what the Catholic Church teaches. I openly challenge you to show me - from the Catechism - that the Church teaches that we are "RE-saved" every Sunday because of our reception of the Eucharist. This is just a flat-out LIE and is beneath any REAL...
  4. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    It's more proof of the fallacy of OSAS. When you cross-reference this verse with 2 Cor. 2:8-9, a few chapters earlier: 2 Cor. 2:8-9 Therefore, I urge you to reaffirm your love for him. For this is why I wrote, to know your proven character, whether you were obedient in everything. Paul is...
  5. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    And we learn from Scripture that we must RESPOND to God's calling in order to receive forgiveness and the Holy Spirit . . . Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you WILL receive the gift of...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    First of all - I'm not arguing with you because I think you're a Calvinist - but because neither the context of Scripture NOR the Church has ever taught the fallacy of OSAS. If you adhere to this false doctrine - Calvinist or not - you are in error. Secondly, I disagree with you that BOTH...
  7. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    As I pointed out before - (James 2:14-14, Gal. 6:8, 1 Cor. 13:1-13) describe the essence of what true faith is - NOT what causes good works. The INITIAL grace to believe is a gift that we have nothing to do with. But, accepting that gift and enduring in faith requires our cooperation with His...
  8. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    And the entire point of this has been that even the born again believer can be willfully unrepentant at any point and LOSE his security. Once again, I don't think I need to list the verses that repeatedly warn us about this. Endurance in faith requires our cooperation with God's grace (Matt...
  9. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    This is nonsense. the Bible doesn't teach this - nor did the Church for the first 1500 years of its existence. NOWHERE does Scripture teach that unrepented sin is forgiven at ANY stage in our life. As a matter of fact, as Christians, we are held to a HIGHER standard when it comes to sin because...
  10. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Wrong. The CONTEXT of Matt. 7:21 is that unless faith is manifested by DOING the will of God - then it is NOT true faith. The problem is that these people thought they were doing God's will because they were MISLED. The 6 verses prior tp this attest to that as they warn about false...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    This response PROVES that you don't understand the Scriptures. The people in Matt. 7:21 are absolutely part of the SAME groups as those in Rom. 10:9. because they fully believe that they have true faith. The fact that they don't is part of the same tragedy as MANY people today who don't...
  12. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Even if we ONLY take the two rock-solid passages that use the word. "Epignosis" (Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 3:17) to describe the believer - these would sink the entire position of OSAS.
  13. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Yes - that's the ENTIRE point. You can come to Christ and be born again - then CEASE to abide in Him and be lost by your own doing. That's what the Scriptural warnings are ALL about. Enduring in faith requires our cooperation with God's grace.
  14. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    As I have repeatedly stated - my use of Matt. 7:21 is NOT an argument against what it means to be a "true" Christian. That is simply a diversion that YOU are using to avoid the truth of the text/ It was used to show the CONTEXT of Rom. 10:9 which YOU used in a failed effort to support the...
  15. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    I already did or, rather, the BIBLE did - several times, by the way (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Tim. 4:1, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet. 3:17, 1 John 2:24, 1 John 5:13, Rev. 3:5, Rev...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Ummmm, forgetting for a moment that this is a thread about eternal security (OSAS) an NOT a primer on false histories of the Catholic Church - this is nothing but another smokescreen to avoid the evidence I have presented that disproves OSAS.
  17. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    Hmmmmm - now you've added LYING to your Scriptural perversions . . . I never said that Epignosis = Salvation. I didn't even imply that. I showed you a list of definitions from Protestant scholars - who basically stated that Epignosis = FAITH. BOTH Heb. 10:26-27 and 2 Pet. 2:20-21, are talking...
  18. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    This deceptive post is nothing but sa smokescreen to cover up your previous blunder that I pointed out in my last post. As I stated before - my SOLE purpose for presenting Matt. 7:21 was to counter YOUR false usage of Rom. 10:9 as some kind of "proof text" for the man-made fallacy of OSAS. You...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    I've done nothing BUT provide context to all of the cherry-picking going on here. YOU seem to be doing nothing but dancing AROUND the issue. ALL of this goes back to your rejection of the term, "Epignosis", which is really the final nail on the OSAS coffin. 2 Peter 2:20-22 For if they, having...
  20. BreadOfLife

    Secure Eternal Salvation

    You've completely missing the point here. I was making an argument against the cherry-picking of Scripture and inventing false doctrines around them. In post #20 - YOU used the following verse to "prove" that OSAS was Biblical: Romans 10:9 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord...