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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not so. Maybe not in Ezekiel but the Messiah is in Daniel 9. But it is talking about His first advent. Neither of these passages mention or relate to a rapture, a period of tribulation, or a third coming. Your teachers have misled you. You force that upon the text because you bought into the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where does it mention 2030 in the parable of the fig tree? Ezekiel 38:2 does not mention Russia! There is no historic, genetic or archaeological proof of that. That is another Pretrib invention that you have swallowed.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Oh, right? So you admit, there is nowhere in Ezekiel 39 or Daniel 9 that mentions the Church, a rapture of the Church, a tribulation period, and a 3rd coming?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where do you get 2030 from? Where does it mention Russia in there?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where is "Armageddon" mentioned in these two chapters? Are we supposed to just accept what you tell us just because you say so?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where in Ezekiel 39 does it even mention a rapture of the church before a tribulation period? Where does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does it mention a 3rd coming?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, who is Gog/Magog? What is that war? Who is involved? When does that happen?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where in Daniel 9 does it even mention a rapture of the church before a tribulation period? Where does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does it mention a 3rd coming?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Please quote and highlight all the elements you claim as supporting your belief. You simply claiming it means nothing.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What are you talking about? So what is Gog/Magog? When does that happen? Where in Ezekiel 39 does it even mention a rapture of the church before a tribulation period? Where does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    As is typical when engaging with Pretribs, you divert off the text at hand. Please address it.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is all words. No substance. Where in Daniel 9 does it even mention a rapture of the church before a tribulation period? Where does it mention the Church? Where does it mentioned a rapture? Where does it mention a tribulation period, and where does it mention a 3rd coming? Nowhere!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Real easy. Each parallel in Revelation agrees with repeated second coming passages throughout Scripture that show His return to be the end. I am happy to present any of these. They confirm that there is no 7 years trib (or protracted trib) after His return. All that awaits the wicked is sudden...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. I am not side-tracking. I am actually outlining you're supposed beliefs. This is an important element of it.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I will be happy to outline the Scriptures. But I asked you where your real Pretrib rapture was in Revelation? After all, to be prefigured there must obviously be a real Pretrib rapture to typify. Or, are you admitting that this is extra-biblical error, like many of us believe?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No. Where is the real Pretrib rapture? You cannot prefigure something that does not exist. Where is it?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where is your third coming in this book?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I never said the catching away was not in the book of Revelation. It is - several times. I am trying to find out where you see it.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are cobbling Revelation up here in order to make your your doctrine fit. First, Revelation is not chronological. It is full of recapitulations. All these finish at the one final future coming of Christ. Where is your rapture in this book? Where is your third coming in this book?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not true. Start with the Op and move down and you will find countless. It is pointless engaging with you if you're not going to tell the truth. Christians delight in keeping to the truth.