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Hey! No one is going to take any lectures from you or your Pretrib assailants. Look at some of the wicked, venomous and vulgar rhetoric that you are hurling towards Posttribbers on these threads. You seem incapable of talking in Christian manner. Here are those...

Exactly. It would nice if you could bring something of compelling biblical weight to the table, but you cannot. You default to what you have been taught. It seems like your teachers have left you holding the baby.

Not so! You reinforce the Op. You have nothing of evidential weight to bring to the table. Nice try! I will save this attempt for future reference and note your avoidance. It is time to abandon what you have been taught. They have misled you.

This is all random convoluted ramblings. It doesn't even make sense.

This passage speaks for itself and destroys Pretrib. It does not need altered or explain the way as you do. I have showed you this multiple times and you have avoided it multiple times. You have to! 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9 declares: “if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them...

Exactly: the destruction is sudden and no one escapes. This demolishes your doctrine. It reinforces Posttrib Amil.

So, that justifies all the venom and hate you Pretribber present? The reality is: you do not like your error being exposed. It always bring a vicious reaction from Pretribbers.

You started good showing us a rapture of the Church in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5. The only problem is, we all believe that. That is not even the issue. You couldn't get any further than that in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5. That is because: There is no ushering the Church into heaven in 1 Thessalonians...

The reason why they have got so vindictive is because they're frustrated. They are frustrated because every Scripture they twist is exposed on this thread. All they have now is ad hominem. The reader will see this.

He doesn't know how to do that. That is why he hides behind his charts. See if he can answer the questions I just presented, for about the fourth time. Don't hold your breath! They expose his error.

That is because they are 2 groups that expose your error!!! That is why you struggle so much answering their questions.

You cannot even address simple questions that challenge your theology . I've asked you several questions that (i believe) expose your understanding of Daniel 9. You have ducked around them every time. You have to! I believe your whole timeframe is messed up. Your charts are therefore faulty. 1...

That sums up the thrust of your biblical evidence. It is nonexistent. All you have is ad hominem.

How about actually showing us any scripture the teaches a rapture of the Church followed by a 7 years trib followed by a 3rd coming, instead of always voicing personal opinions? Here is your big opportunity to actually prove that there is actual hard Scripture that teaches your beliefs or...

You should honestly take this is a great compliment. They cannot refute the biblical message so all they have is to attack the messenger.

Exactly. That is all they have. All Doug has is his faulty charts. That sums up what we are engaging with.

Now that it has been shown that you have no Scripture, this is all you have: infantile chides, insults and ad hominem. We are seeing the death throes a Pretrib on this thread. You have no rebuttal to Posttrib or Amil.

You have been taught wrong. The bride is not gathered until Revelation 19, at the one and only future climatic return of Christ, thus demolishing your thesis. Revelation 19:7-10 tells us, “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath...

We are discussion the absurdity of Pretrib here. Your failure to bring clear biblical evidence to the table has reinforced the Op.

I do not know what you're trying to say here.