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. rstrats, on 05 Feb 2013 - 05:03, said : Exactly what death penalty did the Messiah take upon Himself that would otherwise have to be taken by us? According to Rom 5:12-14, everybody's first death is ear-marked for Adam's transgression; so it can't use it to satisfy justice for any of our own...

. I should probably define what is meant by moral innocence. The details of the Genesis story indicate that Adam was created with a memory; but not with a conscience; which Webster's defines as: a sense or consciousness of the moral goodness or blameworthiness of one's own conduct, intentions...

. According to Gen 1:31, Adam was completed just as God had in mind. However, I think subsequent events demonstrate that Adam wasn't created morally perfect, but rather; morally innocent. Buen Camino /

. Selene, on 31 Jan 2013 - 19:55, said : I don't think you can circumvent God. It was God himself who got me past all those kinds of silly old-wives' tales. Didn't you get anything useful out of post #1; anything at all? You know, for people like you; Christ's sacrifice on the cross was...

. Selene, on 31 Jan 2013 - 19:22, said : A person with pride cannot enter Heaven. Maybe you can't; but I can because I know how to circumvent all those kinds of silly old-wives' tales. Buen Camino /

. Selene, on 31 Jan 2013 - 13:14, said : If a Christian murders another person and is not repentant of that murder, he is in danger of going to Hell. Hell is for make-believe Christians. Those like me who truly believe are in no danger whatsoever; and repentance is for losers. John_8:32, on...

. Post #1 it doesn't mean believers have a 007 license to kill. It simply means that killing won't put them in danger of the reservoir of liquefied flame depicted at Rev 20:10-15. However; there's still civil law to reckon with. Civil law is a whole other jurisdiction than divine law. In the...

. lforrest, on 29 Jan 2013 - 21:26, said : It is wonderful that we have a God who loves us so much he is willing to forgive even murder. I think it is even more wonderful that God donated His own son's life to ransom murderers from the wrath of God. lforrest, on 29 Jan 2013 - 21:26, said ...

. †. Ex 20:13 . .You shall not kill. The Hebrew word for "kill" in that commandment is a bit ambiguous, but additional commandments indicate that the killing in Ex 20:13 means murder. †. Ex 21:13-14 . . If a man schemes and kills another man deliberately, you shall take him away from my very...

. Axehead, on 13 Jan 2013 - 19:56, said : Since Jesus said "THIS DAY thou shalt be with me in Paradise", I will believe that He was in paradise that very same day. I'm with you; but apparently for some people the Bible's language and grammar serve no purpose. Raeneske, on 13 Jan 2013 - 17:15...

. Raeneske, on 13 Jan 2013 - 14:16, said : As stated, Christ died that day. He was not found in paradise on that very day. There's more than one paradise. There's the paradise where Abraham was located as per Luke 16:19-31 and there's the paradise located as per 2Cor 12:2-4 and Rev 2:7...

. According to Mtt 18:28, eternal fire is fatal to the human body; but apparently doesn't always remove it from existence because at Isa 66:23-24 there's predicted a museum of sorts where the exhibits consist of human remains kept as perpetual nourishment for a curious species of fireproof worm...

. Heaven is a place prepared for a prepared people; and Hell also is a place prepared for a prepared people. I once heard a preacher spin a rather realistic yarn about a bus load of Hell's inmates who were issued a 30-day pass for R&R in Heaven. They all came back the very first night because...

. williemac, on 04 Jan 2013 - 16:59, said : It comes as no surprise that you have seen the "friuit" card so often. It's been my experience online that people who play the "fruit" card assume themselves qualified to discern good fruit from bad. And of course they always sincerely believe...

. Now if only I had a share of IBM to go along with Apple Computer for every time somebody online played the "fruit" card, I'd really be in fat city. Buen Camino /

. I wish that I had a share of Apple Computer stock for every time I've encountered somebody online who thinks just because they wear the Christian label that it somehow gives them the right to call me their brother when what they really are is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Buen Camino /

. †. Jude 1:7 . . Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them . . are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire. The ancient Greek word for "everlasting" in that passage is aionios (ahee-o' nee-os) which means: perpetual (also used of past...

. Raeneske, on 01 Jan 2013 - 18:41, said : you'll notice that eternal fire (everlasting fire, fire and brimstone) stopped burning. If it were possible for everlasting fire to stop burning, then it wouldn't be any more everlasting than natural fire. Raeneske, on 01 Jan 2013 - 18:41, said : I...

. williemac, on 31 Dec 2012 - 17:35, said : I challenge you to define the human spirit in a way that can be understood so that it remains in a conscious state without the soul. A spirit still needs a mind. The soul (which comes from the word psyche) is the mind. If a spirit has a mind, it has a...

. Human life consists of body, soul, and spirit. (1Ths 5:23, Heb 4:12) There's evidence that God intends to terminate human bodies and human souls in geena (Mtt 18:28) but I have yet to find evidence of His intentions to terminate human spirits. In point of fact, the Devil is spirit and John...