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....and Satan presents himself as an angel of light. ....but betrays himself by pointing to his 'good works' 'look at me, look at me, look at me .....I'm the greatest, I have the numbers, nobody else compares'.......and without shame says, glorify me! ......when Jesus says, 'don't let your left...

Mens philosophy? From what I can tell, one hardly needs any philosophy, just open eyes. Forcing the reality of another is the domain of men....it is what their kingdom consists of.....it is what defines it...(spiritual force, emotional force, intellectual force and needless to say, physical...

so what's the difference?

Babylon the Great is identified as the system of selfishness and violence which attempts to portray itself as the opposite. It is inclusive of the religions of the World.

And what is best? Do you really think God is impressed by large Cathedrals decked with costly arrays? The whore of Babylon in Revelation 17 is described as arrayed opulently. I suppose she was displaying her best. ....and by the way, I have been to and seen the large Cathedrals in various Sth...

So you're saying that opulence is good when it comes to display?......and God is pleased by the more one can display?

so what's your point Scott?

I think you've missed the point Stan.

How does it sound the the same Augustine? I would have thought it no different to Jesus calling the religious leaders snakes or hypocrites. I think your parallel is misplaced.

ohhh, you don't know?

Yes Lizbeth, I think we all know he has these 'qualities'. The question is however, an 'angel of light' does not manifest these things, so what is it that makes him appear as an angel of light?

how does this list qualify him as appearing as an angel of light?

Judas was forgiven, he just didn't believe it....it killed him......that's what unbelief does; it kills its subject. Peter was nearly in the same boat. His betrayal of Jesus had him spiralling into doubt that he would ever be forgiven. At the seashore where Peter had gone fishing with his mates...

When we read that Satan presents or disguises himself as an angel of light, what do we think that means?

Why is the pot calling the kettle black? ....you have done the same.....you have made up your own eschatology. How do I come to that conclusion? Because you have not understood/ interpreted the prophetic writings through the lens of Jesus. .......and with respect, I don't think you know what the...

Jewish Israel is a Misnomer As is the tiny stretch of real estate in Palestine called the Promised Land.

It is clear where the emphasis is in Roman Catholicism as it is in much of Protestantism in spite of the many words just by taking note of the structures they erect and the opulence they relish........and they want to persuade others they are the humble followers of the Nazarene. Come...

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Ohhhh? enlighten me.

be aware Timo, you are deciding what I am saying re any detail, not me. :)